daveincincy
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:38:00 PM
Something else I don't like about this forum, other than the inability to edit a post, is not being able to quote someone's reply and respond to it...but anyway...

Obama's plan to reduce the deduction is CRAP! I agree with Scotthar. Whether it's for the "wrong reason" or not, many charities welcome the donation...most would consider a blessing. It's the wealthy who, many times under advice from their accountant (or financial advisor), give to charities in order to get the write off. Many may not have given at all, other than their regular donations (i.e. church), if not for the counsel of a financial advisor. Those organizations will suffer. Being a parent of children who go to a private (christian) school, that relies heavily on the charity of individuals, corporations, and other foundations, benefitting from write-offs, are already seeing a HUGE impact on the stability of its future due to the economy. The school has recently been told that a couple of those foundations (which probably rely on the charity of other people and organizations) will not be able to help support the school next year...to the tune of upwards of $200k or so. Taking away the incentive to give will only make it worse...and bring the end to many great organizations. I'd give what I could to my kids' school tax write-off or not, but if I knew someone that needed/wanted to have a tax write-off, and was looking for a place to put their money, I'd encourage them to give to my kids' school. 🙂 I just don't understand Obama's thinking. Personally, I think he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

jojoc
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Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:12:00 AM
^ I just don’t understand Obama’s thinking.

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in a socialistic society, you do not need charity because the government will provide all. That is Obama's mindset, so charity is nice, but not necessary.

The purpose of tax deductions for charitable giving was a policy choice and decision in recognition that the private sector is better able to meet certain needs at the local level rather than rely on government programs.

herfsnipe
Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:50:00 PM
Remember this also.

The $800 "tax cut" for the middle class expires in 2011. So, get ready to BOHICA all over again. 35% tax on cap gains and dividends, and YOU JUST KNOW they'll reinstate FULL estate taxes on all estates not just estates worth over a certain $$ amount.

Nothin' like keepin' us down.

IcyGeddon
Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:57:00 PM
Of course this happens when my wife gets a new job in which we will need these deductions.

*sigh*

I will still give to my church. I do that regardless.

However, I would be so inclined to collect clothes or cans for non-profits anymore. A lot of work.

JadeRose
Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:24:00 PM
I keep sending money to Sally Struthers but I never get my kid. I musta bought like 20 of them now. What a rip-off.
cigarpal
Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:33:00 PM
Charities are the safety net of society. All should be done to encourage and support them and their selfless volunteers. Anything to the contrary is unamerican or worse.
dstieger
Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:51:00 PM
I've got no problem with it. Eliminate the charitable donations deduction altogether. Simplify the tax code. Find way to sell a flat tax to the citizenry. Maybe the local tax districts will be emboldened to start imposing real estate taxes on churches. Never figured out why they don't now. Crazy that I'm forced to subsidize churches in my neighborhood that I don't patronize or whose preachings I don't agree with. Not to mention shifting the tax burden in 'poor' districts from 'rich' churches to struggling home-owners. Just nuts.

-dave

jojoc
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Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:18:00 PM
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sell a flat tax ....

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do you mean an income tax with only one tax bracket, or do you mean a sales tax?

as to your property tax issue, what about other tax exempt organizations? Salvation Army, shelters, food banks, etc.?

I don't know about the churches near you, but several of the churches here do more to help people than almost any other organization that I am aware of. They have their own food bank, clothing bank, financial counseling, addiction recovery programs, utility assistance, rent assistance, etc.

Gene363
Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:18:00 PM
I believe the Obama folks really want to eliminate independent giving. They want more funds for the 'disadvantaged' regardless of charity foundation charters for things like cancer research. Your government know what's best for your money.

Choking religious funding is just another advantage.

8trackdisco
Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:09:00 PM
'..I keep sending money to Sally Struthers but I never get my kid...'

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She eats them.