^You'll still have to pay a FFL to transfer ownership.

I mean put it THIS way........would you just sell a gun to a stranger you met on the internet without transferring legal ownership?

(if so.....email me.........I have a string of crimes I am interested in carrying out)

Andy,

... if it's a private, in-state sale, depending on state law, paperwork may not be required and no FFL would be required either ...

... personally, if I can purchase a firearm without paperwork ... I'll be more willing to buy it and more willing to pay the full value instead of trying to get it for less ...

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No paperwork, FFL nonsence is requried in my state for a personal sale. I've been there and done that.

102.

That is exactly my position. I'd rather purchase from an individual then a dealer who has to ok it with the feds.

^I am not sure I'd be comfortable in that situation.

I AGREE with the background check req'd by my state for firearm ownership.

You could be selling to a felon looking to use your weapon in a crime.

Sure, you must know who you are selling to is a stand up guy, but lets be honest, the criminals obtain their guns from dirty FFL dealers.

The criminals steal their guns out of the homes of lawful Americans, or buy them from drug dealers who illegally brought them in with their drugs. Very few criminals, other than the insane, are linked to legal gun purchases and that is a fact. Legally purchased guns could be traced back to the criminal who purchased them, even those arranged through the Internet, therefore criminals do not legally purchase firearms. Its a chapter in Crime for Dummies and taught in Crime 101 in prisons. Gun Control freaks would have you believe different but they are wrong.

One of the reasons the Obama Admin claim of Mexican Drug Cartels bringing in guns from the USA is so stupid is why would they go to the expense and higher risk of capture by US police when they can bring in full automatic weapons of greater power from where they buy their drugs.

Central and South America is rife with cheap soviet weapons, such as DSHK's, RPK's and RPG's, and getting them is as easy as buying them from some governments, such as Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, and Bolivia. They just bring them into Mexico with their drug shipments. Why go to the high cost and high risk of bringing them in through the USA?

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Check the stats. Most guns found in raids are linked back (when they can be linked) to dirty dealers who sell in bulk to a middle man with a clean record who gets them to the bad guys.

Of course lots of guns are stolen from good people and used by bad folks. Lock up you F-ing guns people!!

Whenever there is such a high demand for a product, especially a legal product, their will be plenty of supply. The guns the bad guys obtain dont fall out of the sky, they come from the same place you buy your guns and the big gun companies are making a mint.

I'm not anti-gun here, but lets not distort the facts.

Happy shooting all!

To keep this thread relevant I used to own a stamped Romanian ak-47 for plinking about 12 years ago when the ammo was super cheap. That gun was a ton of fun, not very accurate, but could take a beating.

No distorting the facts....most guns used by criminals DO NOT come from any US FFL holders. So called dirty dealers are almost completely an urban legend.