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You can have Pelosi.

I was wondering how long it take to get that answer.

Was 60 seconds not fast enough?

it is going to be very interesting to see what becomes of employer provided health care benefits in the coming years, in both the private sector and government sector.

I have a suspicion that many people are going to be mad

Agree with Chief, lots of mad people will be screaming to high heavens......

whatever happened to Obama and his promise (LOL) to check every earmark before signing a bill, and to do away with Government waste. Just another cheap, tin horn liar that tells the sheep what they want to hear and then turns to his own agenda.

Charlie

I thought this was the Brittney Murphy thread??

yes, Charlie.

I imagine that employer provided health care is going to be taxed as income, which is only right.

All the left-leaning schoolteachers and city/county employees are going to be sputtering with rage (lol) at the 'betrayal'.

Of course, this will affect even those below Obama's 'Rich' definition.

Then will come the reduction in benefits phase...

...then the death panels!

17. Author: 8trackdisco

106%

It seems so expensive because it is!

Many, if not most employees, really just don't know how much their employer is paying per month towards the employee's health insurance premium...

12. Author: JadeRose Date: 12/21/2009 10:21 AM Reply

Very well could be, Robert. I haven’t done the homework yet. I just know that, in Illinois, my premiums were gonna be outrageous if I started a restaurant.

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I think Illinois is part of the communist Midwestern bloc, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Trust me, the same people who let Medicare and Medicaid get out of control are the same people who are architecting this latest federal fiscal disaster. And in 20 years, the taxes you as a business owner are going to pay will be crushing. So start your company now, you might not be able to stay in business because of the federal government's "help."

While I honesty sympathize with your plight, this "reform" isn't going to fix anything at all. All it will do is create further dependancy on an out-of-control federal government, nameless bureucrats, and buy votes for politicians with other people's money.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

By the way, for anyone out there who thinks that this will "regulate" insurance companies, Michigan's Blue Corss Blue Shield got a HUGE payoff from the Senate bill thanks to Carl Levin. So much for making insurance companies "compete."

the queer senate leader gets passage of a bill by exempting certain states from the provisions of the bill in return for support of the imposition of the bill on other states. does anybody think that is ok?

and if you do up front, i accuse you of being a queer effen moron

30. Author: rfenst Date: 12/21/2009 08:32 PM Reply

It seems so expensive because it is!

Many, if not most employees, really just don’t know how much their employer is paying per month towards the employee’s health insurance premium...

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Very true--people can be alarmingly ignorant of such things. Vacation pay, sick pay, holiday pay, work comp, employers share of SS, money put into retirement, etc all add up to a substantial amount. Add in a nice health benefit and you begin talking real money.

I administer a small public entity. We provide mid-level PERS healt benefit to each employee and one dependent. It's cost is $1100/month.

That's $6.87/hour in benefit--just for health.