Kawak
Sunday, May 2, 2010 10:22:00 AM
What's clear is the AZ police acted stupidly.

Lets have another beer summit!!!!!

8trackdisco
Sunday, May 2, 2010 10:34:00 AM
"..It seems that we are lacking in enforcement..........but enforcement takes a lot of money..'

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Two bullets in the head isn't that expensive.

VaMtnMan
Sunday, May 2, 2010 10:36:00 AM
10. Author: iqbal Date: 05/02/2010 01:00 AM Reply

myash - sb1070 will not stop the violence assoiated with drug runners and "people pushers". if you think so then you have no clue. we need to enforce the laws on the books already and hold big business acountable and pressure our govt to secure our boarders.

Ah,iqbal have you even read the bill. I have and I just read it again for the 4th time. The whole ideal of the ill was to Force Jurisdictions to enforce the Current Federal Laws. Please point out one thing in the bill that you think is not going to help rid the State of Drug Runners and the Violence.

ARTICLE 8. ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS

14 11-1051. Cooperation and assistance in enforcement of

15 immigration laws; indemnification

16 A. NO OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR

17 OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY ADOPT A POLICY THAT LIMITS OR

18 RESTRICTS THE ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS TO LESS THAN THE FULL

19 EXTENT PERMITTED BY FEDERAL LAW.

20 B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY

21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS

22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS

23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,

24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE

25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH

andytv
Sunday, May 2, 2010 10:56:00 AM
^so if I read this right, the new law prevents other government agencies from making laws that prevent enforcement from enforcing federal laws.

So is this a law that prevents laws from preventing laws?

iqbal
Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:02:00 AM
ah........VaMtnMan, yes i have read the law. after reading it 4 X's, where do you see that it will be more effective than the current laws we already have (but are not enforcing).....you know like our current drug and people smuggling laws, or are you saying the fact that now a STATE made it a law it will sure make the drug cartels and the people pushers really stop doing what they are doing.
VaMtnMan
Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:20:00 AM
Come on Andy, keep up.

This is a law, that prevents other laws from enforcing other laws, that law makers make, against law breakers.

andytv
Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:21:00 AM
^Ok thanks.

Clear as mud!!!