RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
ZRX1200

did you see o"donnell debate the first amendment today. she did not know it was the separation of church and state.

how can you even consider her literate.
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

ZRX1200

did you see o"donnell debate the first amendment today. she did not know it was the separation of church and state.

how can you even consider her literate.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



Yeah. And then I listened to Mark Levin on XM Patriot try to say she was the correct one while everyone else in that room were idiots who knew nothing. His argument was that because the separation of church and state is the official interpretation of that amendment and was a supreme court ruling that it means nothing because the supreme court has been wrong in the past. Really? Then why does he listen to ANY decision by the supreme court?

That guy is so far up her ass I'm surprised he can still breath.
fishinguitarman
15 years ago

Yeah. And then I listened to Mark Levin on XM Patriot try to say she was the correct one while everyone else in that room were idiots who knew nothing. His argument was that because the separation of church and state is the official interpretation of that amendment and was a supreme court ruling that it means nothing because the supreme court has been wrong in the past. Really? Then why does he listen to ANY decision by the supreme court?

That guy is so far up her ass I'm surprised he can still breath.

tweoijfoi wrote:







OH Really?

Coons, an attorney, responded that O'Donnell's question "reveals her fundamental misunderstanding of what our Constitution is. ... The First Amendment establishes a separation."

She interrupted to say, "The First Amendment does? ... So you're telling me that the separation of church and state, the phrase 'separation of church and state,' is in the First Amendment?"

Her campaign issued a statement later saying O'Donnell "was not questioning the concept of separation of church and state as subsequently established by the courts. She simply made the point that the phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution."

Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh made the same point in his radio program soon after the debate, saying, "There's nothing in the Constitution about separation of church and state."

The phrase "separation of church and state" is usually traced to President Thomas Jefferson. In a letter in 1802, he referred to the First Amendment and said that it built "a wall of separation between Church & State."

ZRX1200
15 years ago
Pathetic Rick. Read it and quote the section.
tweoijfoi
15 years ago


Her campaign issued a statement later saying O'Donnell "was not questioning the concept of separation of church and state as subsequently established by the courts. She simply made the point that the phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution."

fishinguitarman wrote:



Of course they did. Damage control.


The phrase "separation of church and state" is usually traced to President Thomas Jefferson. In a letter in 1802, he referred to the First Amendment and said that it built "a wall of separation between Church & State."

fishinguitarman wrote:



Mark Levin's take was that it was a supreme court ruling by an ex-KKK member on the supreme court and that's all there was to that.


Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh made the same point in his radio program soon after the debate, saying, "There's nothing in the Constitution about separation of church and state."

fishinguitarman wrote:



Either way, what is her point? The fact of the matter is that she wants religion in government and I see that as a very bad thing. People will make jokes "oh well it can't be worse than what we have now" but yeah.
jpotts
15 years ago

Indeed it was if you want to call it what we had 1,000 years ago a "scientific community." Indeed the that that time current ideas about nature and science were put into the bible. Science then moved on once new and better theories surfaced. It took hundreds of years for the religious leaders to accept these changes as legitimate and not heresy--many scientists were branded as such and excommunicated or outright killed.

tweoijfoi wrote:



Actually, most of the scientific thought of the day came from the ancient Greeks, not from the Bible. it was taken from the writings and teachings of Archimedes and Aristotle. Duh.

In fact, many of the ground-breaking discoveries of the day were done by monks and clergy. Nicolaus Copernicus comes to mind, as well as Albertus Magnus. Not to mention that Issac Newton, the guy who developed calculus, was also obsessed with the Bible.

As far as genetics goes, Gergor Mendel was a Augustinian monk.

I reiterate: try reading a book or two before you try conversing with the adults.








jpotts
15 years ago


1. Do you believe in DNA?
2. Do you believe in gene inheritance?
3. Do you believe that mutations in living things do occur?
4. Do you believe that certain mutations provide benefits?
5. Do you believe that these benefits would change how likely that living thing is to survive?
6. Do you believe that this increased likelihood of survival makes some creatures more likely to reproduce?
7. Do you believe some of the offspring would inherit these benefits?

tweoijfoi wrote:



This is probably some of the stupidest questions I've seen.

First, the whole point and purpose of the double-helix construction of DNA is to prevent mutation the first place. This is the reason why millions of cells divide daily in our bodies without the vast majority of them going tumorous. It is also the reason why many viral strains, whose makeup consists of single-ended RNA strands, tend to mutate frequently. It is the reason why after years of vaccination science, they cannot eliminate things like influenza and the common cold.

Second, the vast majority of mutations that occur are generally fatal.

Third, just because a mutation occurs in a host doesn't mean that it is passed on to subsequent generations.

Finally, many cross-bred, and "mutated" species tend to be sterile. Furthermore, those creatures who survive their mutations tend to not be selected as compatible mates, and often do not pass on their genetic material to the next generation.

This "challenge" is being laid down by someone who obviously knows very little about basic biology.
jpotts
15 years ago

ZRX1200

did you see o"donnell debate the first amendment today. she did not know it was the separation of church and state.

how can you even consider her literate.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



Besides the fact that the term "seperation of church and state" does not exist in the verbage of the First Amendment?

I guess that makes you illiterate as well?

(God Rick, you are such an idiot.)
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

This is probably some of the stupidest questions I've seen.

jpotts wrote:



Trying to find exactly where you stand on an issue? Are you are incapable of answering a question without becoming argumentative? I am trying to have a conversation with you right now, not an argument.


First, the whole point and purpose of the double-helix construction of DNA is to prevent mutation the first place. This is the reason why millions of cells divide daily in our bodies without the vast majority of them going tumorous. It is also the reason why many viral strains, whose makeup consists of single-ended RNA strands, tend to mutate frequently. It is the reason why after years of vaccination science, they cannot eliminate things like influenza and the common cold.

jpotts wrote:



Yes thank you, I know DNA is constructed to prevent over-mutation. I know that DNA replication occurs in the nucleus of the cell where various enzymes unzip the DNA which is then transcribed and replicated. That is high school biology and no I did not have to look it up.


Second, the vast majority of mutations that occur are generally fatal.
Third, just because a mutation occurs in a host doesn't mean that it is passed on to subsequent generations.

jpotts wrote:



By you misinterpreted my meaning of mutation. I meant mutation not within cells of already matured things, but mutations when an embryo is created. Those mutations can be fatal, yes. But frequently they are not and result in a small abnormality (as compared to the parents of the being) once grown. For example, a child can grown to be significantly taller or shorter than either of their parents or grandparents. This is an extreme example. Most changes are subtle and unremarkable.


Finally, many cross-bred, and "mutated" species tend to be sterile. Furthermore, those creatures who survive their mutations tend to not be selected as compatible mates, and often do not pass on their genetic material to the next generation.

jpotts wrote:



???

You are thinking of extra limbs. I am thinking of 1 inch taller or slightly more prominent cheek bones or a slightly different shade of skin or sharper (or weaker) eyesight. If genetic in nature, slight variations do occur and can be passed to their children.

Do you understand or do I need to spell it out for you more?

This "challenge" is being laid down by someone who obviously knows very little about basic biology.

jpotts wrote:



Yeah.

So I'll take that as:

1. Do you believe in DNA? yes
2. Do you believe in gene inheritance? yes

Now that you understand what I meant by #3, lets move on. Do you agree with my meaning of #3?
HockeyDad
15 years ago
I came here for a good argument.
wheelrite
15 years ago
^ ok ..

you smell like cheese,,,

debate...
HockeyDad
15 years ago
gringococolo
15 years ago

This is probably some of the stupidest questions I've seen.

First, the whole point and purpose of the double-helix construction of DNA is to prevent mutation the first place. This is the reason why millions of cells divide daily in our bodies without the vast majority of them going tumorous. It is also the reason why many viral strains, whose makeup consists of single-ended RNA strands, tend to mutate frequently. It is the reason why after years of vaccination science, they cannot eliminate things like influenza and the common cold.

Second, the vast majority of mutations that occur are generally fatal.

Third, just because a mutation occurs in a host doesn't mean that it is passed on to subsequent generations.

Finally, many cross-bred, and "mutated" species tend to be sterile. Furthermore, those creatures who survive their mutations tend to not be selected as compatible mates, and often do not pass on their genetic material to the next generation.

This "challenge" is being laid down by someone who obviously knows very little about basic biology.

jpotts wrote:





That is pretty much what I said, yet I get accused of having the brain of a 10 year old.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
^You used "bullet" format instead of paragraphs. It is a tough crowd.
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

That is pretty much what I said, yet I get accused of having the brain of a 10 year old.

gringococolo wrote:



I thought you were calling me gay homo. Even if you weren't it was a complete tangent. We're talking about evolution here, not the reason behind the existence of gay people.
fishinguitarman
15 years ago

That is pretty much what I said, yet I get accused of having the brain of a 10 year old.

gringococolo wrote:







You would think you at least deserved teenage status....:-k
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

You would think you at least deserved teenage status....:-k

fishinguitarman wrote:



High-five! It's my birthday.
gringococolo
15 years ago

I thought you were calling me gay homo. Even if you weren't it was a complete tangent. We're talking about evolution here, not the reason behind the existence of gay people.

tweoijfoi wrote:




I did call you a gay-homo, but here at CBid it's like a term of endearment, more like a salutation.
tweoijfoi
15 years ago

I did call you a gay-homo, but here at CBid it's like a term of endearment, more like a salutation.

gringococolo wrote:



You've made me the gayest man alive.
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
tweoijfoi #69

'I am trying to have a conversation with you right now, not an
argument.'

good luck!




if i may, i will try to answer as a putzperson

This is probably some of the stupidest questions I've seen.,
i mean these are.


3. Do you believe that mutations in living things do occur? four
score and seven yeas ago. that's good enough for me.

4. Do you believe that certain mutations provide benefits?

only one testicle is necessary to produce sperm, unless you
want twins

5. Do you believe that these benefits would change how likely
that living thing is to survive?
if god wills it.


6. Do you believe that this increased likelihood of survival
makes some creatures more likely to reproduce?

Direct Current vs. Alternating Current

This transformer helps transfer power traveling to and from
California.

­Batteries, fuel cells and solar cells all produce something called
direct current (DC). The positive and negative terminals of a
battery are always, respectively, positive ­and negative. Current
always flows in the same direction between those two terminals.

7. Do you believe some of the offspring would inherit these
benefits?

it looks like rickamaven inherited all the genes from his
grandparents who were very short, but did amazing gymnastics.

and now rickamaven is only the second gay dumbest on these
bhoards.
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