rfenst
15 years ago

First, I agree whole-heartedly.

But we can't pick and choose which actions should outrage us.

The democrats literally left the state instead of doing their civic duty by voting on the bill.
As if closing their eyes and singing "la la la" could make it go away.

If I recall, when the republicans in washington "dared" to vote NO to Obamas healthcare debacle, they were labeled as obstructionists.
Yet the same media outlets make nary a mention of this stunt, and have yet to label them as anything.

I think the Governor should publicly explain why he sent troopers to their homes. And it should be on his record come the next election.
But apart from that, he's not the bad guy here. It's the democrats that are making a mockery of the system by acting like children rather than elected officials.

In my opinion, of course.

tailgater wrote:




The common law history of sending "the police" to find legislators is not pretty. The usual historical concern is that those in the executive branch, who want to prevent a bill from passing, will simply arrest or detain a legislator long enough to prevent his or her vote on the matter, thereby changing the vote's final outcome. It represents one type of executive meddling with the legislature- a violation of the concept of separation of powers.

The post I commented on indicated that the legislature sent the police, not the governor. This concerns me too! Since when does a typical legislature have the police power of arrest outside of its chamber? I have simply never heard of this before (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened). My take on it is that legislators in the majority could simply use police power to arrest the minority. Not a good idea, in my opinion, no matter how or why that power is used.

As to the missing Democrats, they are behaving like infants and are idiots, no matter what one's opinion on the substantive issue is. Maybe they see their absence as a heightened form of civil disobedience. I don't know. Any legislator in Florida who pulled a stunt like that should, in my opinion, be impeached. Unfortunately, we here in Florida don't have that problem right now. We have a different problem... a single-party, super-majority with a governor of the same party. They are capable of overturning every law ever passed; every vote ever taken and every state supreme court case. Too much power in the hands of too few...

wheelrite
15 years ago

The common law history of sending "the police" to find legislators is not pretty. The usual historical concern is that those in the executive branch, who want to prevent a bill from passing, will simply arrest or detain a legislator long enough to prevent his or her vote on the matter, thereby changing the vote's final outcome. It represents one type of executive meddling with the legislature- a violation of the concept of separation of powers.

The post I commented on indicated that the legislature sent the police, not the governor. This concerns me too! Since when does a typical legislature have the police power of arrest outside of its chamber? I have simply never heard of this before (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened). My take on it is that legislators in the majority could simply use police power to arrest the minority. Not a good idea, in my opinion, no matter how or why that power is used.

As to the missing Democrats, they are behaving like infants and are idiots, no matter what one's opinion on the substantive issue is. Maybe they see their absence as a heightened form of civil disobedience. I don't know. Any legislator in Florida who pulled a stunt like that should, in my opinion, be impeached. Unfortunately, we here in Florida don't have that problem right now. We have a different problem... a single-party, super-majority with a governor of the same party. They are capable of overturning every law ever passed; every vote ever taken and every state supreme court case. Too much power in the hands of too few...

rfenst wrote:



Elections have consquences.
In this case EXCELLENT consquences !!!

This is a conservative country despite what the Lib media wants you believe...
rfenst
15 years ago

Elections have consquences.
In this case EXCELLENT consquences !!!

This is a conservative country despite what the Lib media wants you believe...

wheelrite wrote:




Huh?
wheelrite
15 years ago

Huh?

rfenst wrote:



You talked about the Super Majority of Repubs in FL.
It is a result of an election.Florida is a conservative state except for the commie enclaves of south Florida..

Socialist Liberal ideology is bad for everyone ...
frankj1
15 years ago

You talked about the Super Majority of Repubs in FL.
It is a result of an election.Florida is a conservative state except for the commie enclaves of south Florida..

Socialist Liberal ideology is bad for everyone ...

wheelrite wrote:


unless you are a billionaire pro sports franchise owner.

Sorry, thread jack. As you were.
Kawak
15 years ago
The repubs should have left town when Obycare was being voted on! At least they showed up to vote no!
tailgater
15 years ago

The common law history of sending "the police" to find legislators is not pretty. The usual historical concern is that those in the executive branch, who want to prevent a bill from passing, will simply arrest or detain a legislator long enough to prevent his or her vote on the matter, thereby changing the vote's final outcome. It represents one type of executive meddling with the legislature- a violation of the concept of separation of powers.

The post I commented on indicated that the legislature sent the police, not the governor. This concerns me too! Since when does a typical legislature have the police power of arrest outside of its chamber? I have simply never heard of this before (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened). My take on it is that legislators in the majority could simply use police power to arrest the minority. Not a good idea, in my opinion, no matter how or why that power is used.

As to the missing Democrats, they are behaving like infants and are idiots, no matter what one's opinion on the substantive issue is. Maybe they see their absence as a heightened form of civil disobedience. I don't know. Any legislator in Florida who pulled a stunt like that should, in my opinion, be impeached. Unfortunately, we here in Florida don't have that problem right now. We have a different problem... a single-party, super-majority with a governor of the same party. They are capable of overturning every law ever passed; every vote ever taken and every state supreme court case. Too much power in the hands of too few...

rfenst wrote:



The historical concern is important, but I don't think it's ever happened in the US, has it?

As for the super majority? You're preaching to the choir. I live in the peoples republic of Massachusetts. Where democrats literally get away with murder.
frankj1
15 years ago
I was too young to remember if Sacco and Vanzetti were Democrats. Do Anarchists count as Liberals in MA?

Papachristou
15 years ago

Elections have consquences.
In this case EXCELLENT consquences !!!

This is a conservative country despite what the Lib media wants you believe...

wheelrite wrote:




it is but for some reason, the vocal minority is able to con the rest of the country to thinking their way of life is normal or you are a gun toting racist nut if you speak against them



edit... i do carry a gun though...... but im not racist or a nut 🤔
RICKAMAVEN
15 years ago
wheelrite 24


what is a "commie enclave."


would that be the congressional district of Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

is an enclave like a ghetto?
wheelrite
15 years ago

wheelrite 24


what is a "commie enclave."


would that be the congressional district of Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

is an enclave like a ghetto?

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




sure,why not ?
donutboy2000
15 years ago
Commie enclaves are very dusty and need paint.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
Are their coffee pots clean??
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