And Mike, when you paint that El Museo, I'll be expecting a copy as a fee for putting that in there LOL...

I believe...NOT anymore. I pulled the PL.

M

I saw this as a sign to put that Tat PL back in there, so I cut the box open and...

Instead, I'm pulling the LA cien anos preferido. Puts stay the same.

Also, I'm updating the xls file as I type this.

M

o:)

M

Of the original list or current list of cigars in this pass, what are your favorites that you have smoked 2 or more of? More specifically Illusione, Viaje, and Liga Privada. I am about to pull the trigger on some samplers of these brands and want to know what you guys think about the "safe buys" of these lines.

What is a HTF/Rare website? I'm not being a jerk, I really dont know.

I've probably smoked a handful of most of the cigars on the list... I'm curious as to where you can buy them.

+1...

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vitolas.net and zencigar are what i was referring to. Just pic/review sites.

ELO place is where i was going to get base samplers to those lines, and the harder to find stuff I have no problem finding. What I was looking for with my question was:

-Illusione 2 Crown of Thorns is my favorite because....

-Viaje Oro has much better spice than Platino because.....

-I like 50/50 because....

-The best Tat monster series in the pass is.....

-Other than Dirty Rat-Flying Pig, the best Liga Privada is.....

nobody is going to have the same answer or maybe all will, its an opinion question worth asking, regardless what my cigar tastes are, esp. with so many cigars I have never tried.

I am not trying to be a jerk either, please don't take me for a nobsatchel. [gonzo]

Good research is nothing without the opinions of others, esp. the current big dogs of CBid....you guys.

-Illusione 2 Crown of Thorns is my favorite because.... Sorry, didn't even know they existed.

-Viaje Oro has much better spice than Platino because..... That's what my pallet picks up?

-I like 50/50 because.... Who doesn't?

-The best Tat monster series in the pass is..... The one you can/have smoked.

-Other than Dirty Rat-Flying Pig, the best Liga Privada is..... The one at hand you are willing to burn.

Hope that helps. :-"

The ~2~ is my absolute, hands down, least favorite Illusione that I've ever smoked. I dont know why, but that cigar (I believe it to be a torpedo) just never sat well with me.

-Viaje Oro has much better spice than Platino because.....

Again, I like the Platino better than the Oro in MOST vitolas, but the Oro is definitely a "stronger" cigar, even just by definition. Per Viaje's site, the Oro is the stronger of the two. Other than the few special releases that I have had (and have boxes of thanks to some great brothers here), I would stick with the Platino unless you find a Fernando or a La Pequena.

-I like 50/50 because....

Love this cigar. Red or Black. Both are fantastic and you can really tell the change when it gets to the half-way point. If you haven't smoked one, I recommend trying it. I'm out of blacks but the reds are very good. VERY good.

-The best Tat monster series in the pass is.....

All of the monsters are different. My favorite is probably the Face, but the Drac is a lot better now than it was when it was released. The Boris is a great smoke and the Frank is next to impossible to find. Some say the Frank is getting past its prime, but I dont beleive that. Smoke it if you get one and check it out for yourself.

-Other than Dirty Rat-Flying Pig, the best Liga Privada is.....

I'm a LP whore. 100%. My least favorite is the T52, but I like them too. The LP9 is one of the best smokes on the market IMO. Just a great smoke. NEVER lets me down. LP9 Pig is a treat. Any pig is a treat, but I like the 9 better than the 52.

These are MY opinions. I'm sure others will vary GREATLY. But, I've had all of the smokes you are asking about and they are some damn fine smokes. I would smoke any of them in a heartbeat.

really? 👎 why waste your time with a **** response?

much better response.....thank you TJ!

If you didnt like the Illusione 2, what is your favorite of the brand that is available?

Love the Epernay line, mk, cg:4 (the best Illusione out there in my opinion), f9, and others.

I am sure it depends on the vitolas that you prefer. I enjoy coronas, robustos, and smaller smokes. But for some reason, the ~2~ just always sucked. Others really like it so dont throw it out the window just because it isn't my favorite.

Because I felt like it. I knew someone would be along shortly to defuse my attempt at humor. That and I haven't received a 👎 from anyone yet. Do you feel special to be the 1st?](*,)

As to your question about which Illusiones don't suck, I'll agree with my vet for the most part on his choices. I also enjoy the 4/2g and hl.

Viaje, you can't go wrong with any of their sticks IMO. I prefer the Platino over the Oro, though. The Platino Samurai from TG is fantastic. Really hoping Andre is going to make good with releasing boxes of the Exclusivo CG at events. I would snatch up as many as I could if he does.

Can't go wrong with any LP's.

My experience with Tatuaje Dracs has not been good. I would put them at the bottom of the Monster Series list. I have a couple of Boris resting right now, but I hear they're moving past their prime, so one of those will be smoked soon to verify. The Face is the easiest to come by. It's a good stick. A bit of a change for Tatuaje. It has a wonderful sweetness to it. Definitely worth trying.

-Viaje Oro has much better spice than Platino because..... I actually prefer the Platino to the ORO... True, there is more "spice" to the ORO but, the Platino is more of a smooth smoke... A good solid medium cigar...

-I like 50/50 because.... I have only had the black... Great flavors and you can definitely taste the change at the half way point... Careful though... the second half has some power to it!!! LOL

-The best Tat monster series in the pass is..... You know, I have not been blown away by any of them... The Drac sucked when it was first released but, has shown some improvement with some nap time, Boris was better... The Face is good, and I hope gets better after a while... I smoked a Frank a couple of months ago and, it was pretty mild but had nice flavor...

-Other than Dirty Rat-Flying Pig, the best Liga Privada is..... This is an easy one... I am not a huge fan of pepper... The DR, and T52 are pepper bombs... I have smoked both and now when I get them they go down for a deep slumber to hopefully calm them down a bit... LOL The LP#9 is just a well balanced smoke with an almost meaty profile.... Love them...

Best thing to do before you jump would be to do some trading for a few of each. I hope that helps!!! LOL