derfladnar
Friday, April 29, 2011 9:35:50 PM
Will be out in tomorrow's mail....
ryancuad
Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:58:47 AM
sweet!

over two months and finally finished. crazy how long it actually takes.

derfladnar
Monday, May 2, 2011 2:03:58 PM
Package out Sat morning....03102010000125800580
smelly4tay
Monday, May 2, 2011 6:30:03 PM
Box just arrived. That moved extremely fast from RI.

Going to look through it and will post plays in the next couple hours, and have this back out to Ryan in the morning.

smelly4tay
Monday, May 2, 2011 7:41:10 PM
ok, that took shorter than I thought =p~ . Lemme know if anything looks wacky on here. I am still learning value/rarity of some of these newer sticks.

Puts-------------------------------Takes

1. LFD limitada factory press #1.........1. Opus Super Beli

2. AF Shark xmas 05........................2. Satori Karma

3. Oliva "O" Bold Orion cloth band.......3. Tatuaje classic 7th reserva

4. Avo 22 ........................................4. PAM 26 80th

5. Oliva V Maduro 2010

6.Camacho Liberty 03

CC

1. Boli RC 2010.............................1. PSD4

2. ERDM pc 1999...........................2. Boli gold medal

3. RAss 04....................................3. PLpc

The Oliva V Maduro was an extra to add to #4 just in case I miscounted price on the 80th PAM, but i figured the AVo 22 jar was rare enough then, and much more rare after 8 yrs.

I threw in that Camacho Liberty 03 coffin as a thank you to Ryan from all of us in the pass.

Thank you Ryan for letting me participate!

smelly4tay
Monday, May 2, 2011 11:19:59 PM
crickets are chirping so I am editing my plays.....putting back the PAM26 80th for the Illusione Nosotros. 🤐
tj2001cobra
Monday, May 2, 2011 11:21:53 PM
Dude, your takes/puts are very fair. If it makes you feel better, put the Camacho 03 for the 80th. Hell, I haven't seen one of those traded here in several years. I've never even seen one!!!!

The board is dead tonite. Dont read into it!!!

tj2001cobra
Monday, May 2, 2011 11:23:27 PM
Come to think of it, I have ever cigar you are taking except the Opus. I'LL DO THE TRADE WITH YOU!!!!!!!

Seriously. Take the Padron AND the Nosotros. I'm not kidding. Everyone else will agree.

tj2001cobra
Monday, May 2, 2011 11:25:09 PM
In fact, again, I'll give you TWO of all your takes to get your puts LOL!!! 05 Anejo? LFD Limitado 1? Dont know WTF the Avo is, but i'm sure I'd smoke it.... Camacho 03? Never even seen one!!!

elk hunter
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:00:35 AM
Never seen an '03 Liberty????
tj2001cobra
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:14:46 AM

Never seen an '03 Liberty????

elk hunter wrote:

No,. I just realized I said that twice.

Have you?

tj2001cobra
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 1:06:38 AM
Did a little research on the Avo 22. It was priced at around $22 when it came out in 2002. Here is a review done side by side with its predesessor, the 787...

The AVO 22 is the second Limited Edition cigar that was made into a regular production cigar. The 787 was released in 2007 to much ballyhoo and prompted me to write another side by side review: then & now.

AVO 22

Well, just about all Kelner cigars age well, and this is no exception. This luscious looking cigar is teeming with oils! The veins are barely apparent and after the pre-light draw I can tell this is going to draw and hopefully burn perfectly.

This starts out fairly on the mild side. It is woody and creamy, but not dry. The finish has hints of leather coffee.

AVO 22

The burn starts out a little crooked, but corrects itself within the first inch and a half.

Halfway through it develops into a creamy coffee cigar with just a hint of cocoa.

This is one of those change-as-you-smoke cigars. Every puff gives me something different. I really enjoyed this cigar. I hope the 787 can live up to its predecessor.

Rating: 93 (A)

AVO 787 Perfecto

So does the 787 live up to it’s namesake? The 787 perfecto is the same size as the AVO 22, so I thought this would offer the perfect comparison.

This cigar is just a touch darker than the 22, with just a bit more visible veins. It is also not as firm to the touch as the 22.

As I take a pre-light draw, I notice it has less filler than the 22 as well.

The cigar lights well and gives off a nice initial coffee and cream flavor with some wood thrown in for good measure. But right away I can tell this is a completely different cigar.

The burn was just fine and the flavor was okay, but the cigar was lacking in complexity of flavor and general oomph. By “oomph”, I really don’t mean strength, I am referring to the overall depth and richness of flavor.

The only extra flavors I pick up as I finish the cigar is just a touch of cocoa and leather towards the end. This was pretty disappointing as I smoked this after the 22.

Rating: 87 (B)

Another review:

The Bottom Line: This is what cigar dreams are made of...This is NOT a strong cigar by any means, but it has flavor in spades, and three words stuck with me as I was smoking this stick... Complex, Creamy and oh so very, very Smooth...and excellent example of what a mild to medium cigar SHOULD taste like, with flavors changing everytime you turn around, and just the right amount of spice to draw it all together...Throw in an amazing burn and draw for the entire cigar, and you have an almost perfect specimen...

Final Score: 95

smelly4tay
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 10:13:19 AM
Ryan?
nnightmar
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 11:13:03 AM
Gotta agree with TJ. Your puts are more than fair.
elk hunter
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 11:22:22 AM

No,. I just realized I said that twice.

Have you?

tj2001cobra wrote:

You want to try a couple?:-"

ryancuad
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:18:51 PM
sorry, didn't stop in yesterday.

of course your trades look great. sending you a pm

DBIII
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 2:59:36 PM

You want to try a couple?:-"

elk hunter wrote:

LMAO, get him Elk!

nnightmar
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:24:31 PM
Hmmmm have I had a Liberty? Why no. I have not had a Liberty. Are they any good?
gimbel
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 6:10:44 PM
^^^ For real? ^^^

Cool, another to add to the list.

nnightmar
Tuesday, May 3, 2011 10:32:28 PM
Well I did pick up an 07 & 08 this evening. I've just never thought to get them before...