Kawak
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15 years ago
Debunking Lib idol John Stewart

So we have three Pew studies that superficially rank Fox viewers low on the well-informed list, but in several of the surveys, Fox isn’t the lowest, and other general-interest media outlets -- such as network news shows, network morning shows and even the other cable news networks -- often score similarly low. Meanwhile, particular Fox shows -- such as The O’Reilly Factor and Sean Hannity’s show -- actually score consistently well, occasionally even outpacing Stewart’s own audience.

Meanwhile, the other set of knowledge surveys, from worldpublicopinion.org, offer mixed support for Stewart. The 2003 survey strikes us as pretty solid, but the 2010 survey has been critiqued for its methodology.

The way Stewart phrased the comment, it’s not enough to show a sliver of evidence that Fox News’ audience is ill-informed. The evidence needs to support the view that the data shows they are "consistently" misinformed -- a term he used not once but three times. It’s simply not true that "every poll" shows that result. So we rate his claim False.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/ 

FuzzNJ
15 years ago

Debunking Lib idol John Stewart

So we have three Pew studies that superficially rank Fox viewers low on the well-informed list, but in several of the surveys, Fox isn’t the lowest, and other general-interest media outlets -- such as network news shows, network morning shows and even the other cable news networks -- often score similarly low. Meanwhile, particular Fox shows -- such as The O’Reilly Factor and Sean Hannity’s show -- actually score consistently well, occasionally even outpacing Stewart’s own audience.

Meanwhile, the other set of knowledge surveys, from worldpublicopinion.org, offer mixed support for Stewart. The 2003 survey strikes us as pretty solid, but the 2010 survey has been critiqued for its methodology.

The way Stewart phrased the comment, it’s not enough to show a sliver of evidence that Fox News’ audience is ill-informed. The evidence needs to support the view that the data shows they are "consistently" misinformed -- a term he used not once but three times. It’s simply not true that "every poll" shows that result. So we rate his claim False.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/ 

Kawak wrote:



lol, in several Fox isn't the lowest, just close to the bottom? Yay!

Also from politifact, statements made on Fox:

"Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We're the only country in the world that has it."

False

Forty-five percent of doctors "say they'll quit" if health care reform passes.

False

"Mitt Romney ... gave you government health care that is now bankrupting the state" of Massachusetts.

False

Less than 10 percent of Obama's Cabinet appointees "have any experience in the private sector."

False

Labor union president Andy Stern is "the most frequent visitor" at the White House.

False

The Muslim Brotherhood has "openly stated they want to declare war on Israel."

False

Michelle Obama has 43 people on her staff; Nancy Reagan had just 3.

Pants on Fire

Wilmington, Ohio hasn’t taken any money from the government. They don’t want any money from the government.

Pants on fire

The government is trying to now close the Lincoln Memorial for any kind of large gatherings.

Pants on fire

In the health care bill, we're now offering insurance for dogs.

Pants on fire

John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, "has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population."

Pants on fire

Attorney General Eric Holder is involved in the dismissal of the criminal charges" against the New Black Panther Party for voter intimidation

False

O'Reilly says he didn't call Dr. George Tiller a baby killer.

False

Nobody has ever said on Fox that you're going to jail if you don't buy health insurance.

Pants on fire

The White House "branded" the memorial service for the Tucson shootings with a "Together We Thrive" logo and slogan.

False

Under the "Cash for Clunkers" program, "all we've got to do is ... go to a local junkyard, all you've got to do is tow it to your house. And you're going to get $4,500.

False

White House Political Director Patrick Gaspard once served as the "right-hand man" for Bertha Lewis, who heads up ACORN.

False

State Board of Education is considering eliminating Christmas and the Constitution from textbooks

Pants on Fire

Healthcare reform is a government takeover of healthcare.

Politifact Lie of the Year! 2010

Obama has accumulated more debt than previous 43 presidents combined

False

The health care bill includes death panels.

PolitiFact's Lie of the Year! 2009!

Cash for clunkers will give the government access to you home computers.

False

Halting gulf drilling cost 8 billion a day in imports.

Pants on fire

Democrats plan largest tax increase in history.

False

Obama voted often in the US senate 'present'.

False

Now that's a lot of correcting to do according to the source you quoted.
ZRX1200
15 years ago
No snickerdoodle for kawak!!!

No google link.......and I know books have been written about this stuff.....
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago
Jon Stewart is a comedian.

Not a really great one at that.

News source?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RwyUdBp-cck#at=10

Ummm...he can be seen nightly on Comedy Central...why you'd want to devote your time to watch the guy is your problem not mine. Why you'd want to watch the news at all is the bigger issue.

If you're going to watch the news to be informed then ALL American outlets fail miserably to say...the BBC. Even that's got it's limits. The snippet mentality that Americans have is numbing. They talk down to the robots watching the talking heads with 3-4 minute bursts followed by OpEd reasoning. The BBC will devote 15-20 minutes of a show to cover all the bases of an issue...see the difference?

No, you don't...most will still watch the alphabet soup or Comedy Central for their news.
teedubbya
15 years ago
If anyone is really that interested n defending any news outlet from either side perhapse they need a little help.
HockeyDad
15 years ago
France24 is good.
DrafterX
15 years ago
I get all my info from e-mails and the internets..... I feel confident about my opinions and stuff.... 😟
teedubbya
15 years ago
It is telling to rip on a news network and watch folk get hurt or offended.
Nicar
15 years ago
The Daily Show sucked azz..... Jon Stewart sucks even more... and between the OP and Fuzzs post, I feel back in school taking those aweful true/false tests that have 1 word in it that makes it either way...its crap..who cares..people bitch about too much and get their feeligs hurt too quickly and dont see who to fix what is obviously wrong. I dont watch news programs cause it is always the bad stuff being paraded on the TV. The play the court stuff about that mental girl that killed her baby and her mental family and they shou stuff from long time ago and talk about it over and over and over and over.

[/end senseless babble]
DrafterX
15 years ago
Nicar should watch Animal Planet every now and then..... poor Nicar's puppy-dog.... 😞
teedubbya
15 years ago
I heard the animal planet viewers are almost as dumb as the fox watching zombies
Nicar
15 years ago

Nicar should watch Animal Planet every now and then..... poor Nicar's puppy-dog.... 😞

DrafterX wrote:




The 7yr watches that... he likes Dog Whisperer at times... also, he didn't like seeing a shark eat a seal.. cause he likes seals... but he'll watch it anyways...
DrafterX
15 years ago
Dog Whisperer for President!!!!! 👍
DrafterX
15 years ago
🤔 🤔
wait... is he American..?? 😕
ZRX1200
15 years ago
He is now after doing his show for 3-4 years as an illegal alien.
teedubbya
15 years ago
I wouldn't even have an issue if he chose cheney as VP I have no doubt he could contain that summitch
Brewha
15 years ago
Fox New is well spun hate-monging propaganda. It is always “here is why you should be scared” and “look what they are doing to you”. And some people just love it – it feels so good having someone tell you who the enemy is and why to hate them.

The O’Reilly Factor and Sean Hannity’s show are a kind of intelligence test – if you think they are fair and balanced then you failed the test – an you are easily manipulated.

Scary how many Americans actually see this as news and not opinions. And you’ll never get them to see it, because it’s what they want to hear.
DrafterX
15 years ago

Fox New is well spun hate-monging propaganda. It is always “here is why you should be scared” and “look what they are doing to you”. And some people just love it – it feels so good having someone tell you who the enemy is and why to hate them.

Brewha wrote:





you forgot to mention the Outrage..... 😟
DrMaddVibe
15 years ago

Fox New is well spun hate-monging propaganda. It is always “here is why you should be scared” and “look what they are doing to you”. And some people just love it – it feels so good having someone tell you who the enemy is and why to hate them.

Brewha wrote:




Yeah...it's just them...not what you watch...just them and only them...riiight!

The O’Reilly Factor and Sean Hannity’s show are a kind of intelligence test – if you think they are fair and balanced then you failed the test – an you are easily manipulated.

Brewha wrote:



I agree. It is an intelligence test. If you think it's news you're a moron, if you think it's OpEd you can pass go and collect $200.00!

Scary how many Americans actually see this as news and not opinions. And you’ll never get them to see it, because it’s what they want to hear.

Brewha wrote:




Yeah...scary. Be afraid...tune in tomorrow though because you just know deep down you're hoping for them to mention your name!
teedubbya
15 years ago
I like Glen Beck. he seems pretty reasonable and down to earth and has a firm grip on history. He has taught me a lot.
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