BuckyB93
Saturday, October 1, 2011 12:29:32 AM

He knows that for every winner, there is a loser, and that if one member of the team is not shooting well, then the others are going to have to help take up the slack.

But one of the things I like most about his team spirit, is that even if they win or lose, they are the one team on the league who has the most fun... every week.

Isn't that one of the things we hope our kids get out of their sports? a sense of accomplishment, with a side of fun?

Mrs.Tank wrote:

Yes... yes it is. Let them be kids and have fun. Soon enough life will happen and all that will go out the window. I glad I'm able to re-live, re-learn my childhood through their eyes and actions. It's a blessing for me. Let them make their mistakes but be there to help them along the way. For me, sometimes its a kick in the ass (figuratively) sometimes a hug, sometimes is a *shrug* you figure it out, I'll stand by and learn with you. Tae Kwan Do classes, Ice skating... Learn it all over again.

I showed my son one day how to see if the 9 volt battery for his toys was still good (test it with your tongue). He didn't like me much for a little while. After he got over it ("Dad, that's not nice... stop laughing at me") he taught the dog how to test it. Dog didn't like him much after that for a little while either ("you little human, stop laughing at me").

I will say that no matter how good your kids are, please let your coach do his job... I coached and assisted coached for 4 years in baseball when my kid was young... I've never hit a woman but came damn close one night after taking some serious verbal abuse...I played everyone not just the talented kids no matter what... I was even dismissed from team (as well as my son) for questioning the coach about seating our pitcher and bringing in a so called ringer in the playoffs... still makes me sick...

DrafterX wrote:

Not that you need my acknowledgement, but I applaud that type of coaching. When the kids get to the more senior levels of competition go balls out and play to win within the rules. Until then should be just for fun, learning (both how to win and lose), discipline and a sense of accomplishment.

"Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence. "

“You never win a game unless you beat the guy in front of you. The score on the board doesn’t mean a thing. That’s for the fans..."

- V. Lombardi

HockeyDad
Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:53:53 AM

I will say that no matter how good your kids are, please let your coach do his job... I coached and assisted coached for 4 years in baseball when my kid was young... I've never hit a woman but came damn close one night after taking some serious verbal abuse...I played eveyone not just the talented kids no matter what... I was even dismissed from team (as well as my son) for questioning the coach about seating our pitcher and bringing in a so called ringer in the playoffs... still makes me sick...

DrafterX wrote:

Second guessing the coach is part of youth sports. You can't 100% rely on the coach to get your kid a college scholarship and have to take matters into your own hands.

tailgater
Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:36:44 AM

Whoa Tail!!!! I never spoke about your kids skill level nor did I insult him. You used the word "SCRUM".

That's not what I watch.

Chill out dude.

If you are looking for a good fuss, I'll give you one, but that was not my intention.

Mattie B wrote:

MattieB,

You most certainly did insult my kid.

I bash the sport of soccer but end my post by telling you I still love to watch my kid play.

You retort by stating the reason I don't like it is because the kids I watch must suck.

WTF is wrong with you? Can't you follow simple progression in a thought process?

You then follow up this gem by telling me to watch YOUR kid play and it will change my mind. Even though you know I watch my own kid, somehow watching yours will make me a believer.

You're a pathetic excuse for a parent.

I feel sorry for your kid, and hope he doesn't emulate you as he grows up.

And appologies go out to SteveR and the CBid crew. They did the right thing and editted my previous post when I typed what I really felt.

tailgater
Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:48:10 AM
Regarding the popularity of soccer and its current growth:

I never stated that it doesn't take skills to excel at a high level. I know it does.

That is true for all sports and also most any endeavor. It's not worthy of debate, and it was never my intent to suggest otherwise.

What I did say, however, is that the GROWTH of this particular sport is born from the "everybody is a winner" mentality that exists today.

Parents don't want to subject their kids to failure at age 7, so they choose soccer over other sports such as baseball (as an example).

It is easier to kick a ball at 7 years old then it is to hit a moving ball with a bat. That's not opinion. It's physics.

So more kids play soccer, and this impacts the GROWTH and POPULARITY of the sport as these generations of kids grow up.

That's not a dig. It's simply the facts.

As for the other arguement I hear all the time: If you don't like soccer, it's because you don't understand it.

That's even a bigger joke.

Aside from my previous example (I understand math but don't enjoy watching people solve equations) I can use something more relevant.

My kid recently joined the local lacrosse team. First year in my town. The kids at every age level didn't do particularly well because they played against well established leagues. The parents didn't UNDERSTAND the game at all beyond the basics of scoring goals and offsides.

Yet we enjoyed the hell out of it.

Which is odd, because I'm told that I don't enjoy the sport of soccer simply because I don't understand it.

Hmmm. Go figure.

Big_Bear
Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:00:13 AM
>> You're a pathetic excuse for a parent.

>> I feel sorry for your kid, and hope he doesn't emulate you as he grows up.

Sorry Tailgater. I gotta throw a flag on this one.

You're out of line.

MrsSledn
Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:09:18 AM
Agree with Big Bear. This conversation or debate should not turn into someone is a bad parent. Come on now. Of the people I know friends or foes, regardless of what I think of them, I would never be critical of someone's parenting skills.

tailgater
Saturday, October 1, 2011 1:39:12 PM
Big Bear,

Why is it out of line to hope his kid doesn't grow up to emulate his obvious faults?

As a coach and parent, I see his type all the time. And usually it affects the kids in a not-so-kind manner.

Mrs, with all due respect, I called to task his parenting as it relates to sporting events. I have not suggested that it reaches beyond the fields.

And of all your friends and BOTL's, have they told you that your kid sucks? Directly or indirect it matters not.

If the guy able to comprehend even the most basic sentences, he knew that I watch my kid play soccer, yet he tells me that the kids I watch must suck and I need to watch his kid in order to be enlightened.

And I'm the one out of line?

I wish the best for his kid.

Hence my comments.

MrsSledn
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:01:44 PM
Tail, I made a general statement to both of you. Take it as you will. When it comes to men and sports, whether their children play or not, you guys get extremely defensive and well, mean.

I made multiple comments above regarding the sport itself and you focus on my most recent. I find that strange.... I agreed with Mattie about soccer's popularity since I do know it has really grown over the years here also and made my own statements. Period. I don't like to see parents berate eachother over how they "parent." What works for one may not work for the next. There are people who are no longer welcome in my life, but I still find them to be good parents. Something people overlook... You could be the best parent in the world and the child is a firecracker. You could be the worst parent in the world and have a child who is a simply awesome.

You and Mattie both stepped over the line during this discussion and turned it into something it never should have been. However it does show how passionate parents are about the sports their child plays.

And if someone ever bashed my parenting, they would have their intestines served to them with a silver spoon. One thing I KNOW myself or my husband are not, are bad parents. I might be overprotective of my son at times, and I work on that. But he's my boy and he needs the extra eye with his disability and social situations.

wheelrite
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:12:19 PM
Sigh,,,

Too many parents live their sad lives vicariuosly through their children.Hence,all the goofy bumper stickers.

If I cared if someone's brat is in the band or an Honor Student I'd ask. My kids excelled in sports and in school.I was proud of them but it was what it was...

I also taught them at young age to Fetch Beers, which I feel will serve them better later in life...

wheel,

8trackdisco
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:20:31 PM

Sigh,,,

Too many parents live their sad lives vicariuosly through their children.Hence,all the goofy bumper stickers.

If I cared if someone's brat is in the band or an Honor Student I'd ask. My kids excelled in sports and in school.I was proud of them but it was what it was...

I also taught them at young age to Fetch Beers, which I feel will serve them better later in life...

wheel,

wheelrite wrote:

Or, kids grow up with low self esteem, buy boobs, and marry short men.

wheelrite
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:22:03 PM

Or, kids grow up with low self esteem, buy boobs, and marry short men.

8trackdisco wrote:

Who dat ???

I do have low self esteem,though...

wheelrite
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:24:34 PM

Or, kids grow up with low self esteem, buy boobs, and marry short men.

8trackdisco wrote:

or,

Their marriage dissolves after the kitties leave the nest because they've been obsessed with and overly involved with the kids every waking moments.

8trackdisco
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:36:02 PM

or,

Their marriage dissolves after the kitties leave the nest because they've been obsessed with and overly involved with the kids every waking moments.

wheelrite wrote:

I've seen some of that.

wheelrite
Saturday, October 1, 2011 2:44:14 PM

I've seen some of that.

8trackdisco wrote:

me too...

sad really..

tank71663
Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27:14 PM

I tried Soccer once .... but then she hit me back and it Hurt !.......BaDum bum...

tailgater
Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:12:58 AM

Tail, I made a general statement to both of you. Take it as you will. When it comes to men and sports, whether their children play or not, you guys get extremely defensive and well, mean.

I made multiple comments above regarding the sport itself and you focus on my most recent. I find that strange.... I agreed with Mattie about soccer's popularity since I do know it has really grown over the years here also and made my own statements. Period. I don't like to see parents berate eachother over how they "parent." What works for one may not work for the next. There are people who are no longer welcome in my life, but I still find them to be good parents. Something people overlook... You could be the best parent in the world and the child is a firecracker. You could be the worst parent in the world and have a child who is a simply awesome.

You and Mattie both stepped over the line during this discussion and turned it into something it never should have been. However it does show how passionate parents are about the sports their child plays.

And if someone ever bashed my parenting, they would have their intestines served to them with a silver spoon. One thing I KNOW myself or my husband are not, are bad parents. I might be overprotective of my son at times, and I work on that. But he's my boy and he needs the extra eye with his disability and social situations.

MrsSledn wrote:

Mrs,

I never commented on your earlier posts because I didn't feel a need. My comments regarding the sport of soccer are explained in my earlier posts. And I would have been happy to discuss this and debate it with the OP, but he chose to attack my kid instead.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: any parent who has to make themselves feel better by bashing someone else's kid is a loser.

You say we both stepped over the line, and that is true. But he attacked my kid because I insulted a sport. I attacked him after he insulted my kid. There's a huge difference, as I'm sure you will agree.

Lastly, you are justified in your defenese of your parenting.

I assume you would be equally upset if the slight was not against your parenting, but against your kid himself.

When you consider your thoughts on that, I'm sure you can understand my outburst.

tailgater
Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:14:32 AM

Who dat ???

I do have low self esteem,though...

wheelrite wrote:

Don't call it "low" self esteem.

Call it "height appropriate"...

HockeyDad
Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:31:32 AM

Sigh,,,

Too many parents live their sad lives vicariuosly through their children.Hence,all the goofy bumper stickers.

wheelrite wrote:

My son cross-checked the Honor Student of the Month at Liberty Middle School and got a 2 minute penalty. I wanted a bumper sticker for it.

JadeRose
Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:09:14 PM
Whoa!! Whoa! WHOA!!!

In all this animosity and rancor, no one noticed that teedubbya said he played soccer in high school AND college and then had the AUDACITY to claim that he hasn't caught the gay?

[-x 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳

*Red Card*

Mattie B
Monday, October 3, 2011 10:39:33 AM
OK Tail,

You're Right

You Win

Apologies