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MikeyRavioli
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14 years ago

#141

How so?

rfenst wrote:

In the way that they have complaints but no solutions. They aren't rallying for a candidate or a bill. They aren't offering a solution or even an idea. I had more respect for the marches for gay marriage. They were organized, legal, and had a point. Gay marriage is not legal - We want it to be legal - Pass the bill.

Their whole protest is based on "we don't like what you are doing. so do something else."

Going back to Fuzz original list of their manifesto its just accusations. I am not saying they arent true but in context its meaningless with out at least an idea for the begining of a solution. They are doing nothing more than shaking their fists.

What is their goal? Their end game? For the people who messed it up in the first place to fix it? Is there a candidate coming from this protest? An economic model? A plan for social reform? Hell I hear more ideas on how to fix things when the whole family sits down for Sunday dinner than I hear coming from the park.

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pgje51
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#142

soon as the weather changes, it will all be done and the 1% will have their laughs around the fireplace through the holidays.

Brewha
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14 years ago

#143

Wow – The CBS national news last night said that 67% of the people they poled approved of the OWS efforts. Better than twice the Tea Party’s approval rating.

I guess a lot of people agree with the way they feel – I know I do!

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

14 years ago

#144

Brewha wrote:

So you're shaking your fist as well but won't join them?

Did you hear that President Obama is going to sign three new free trade agreements on Friday? South Korea, Panama, and Colombia.

We globalists are under the Obama Cone of Protection.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

14 years ago

#145

I would love to see reform in the tax code.

MikeyRavioli wrote:

The tax code will be reformed. You will be paying more. The deficit and national debt all but guarantee it.

MikeyRavioli
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#146

And this is why they need organization and leadership. While they are busy looking for corporate criminals they are being robbed blind.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/criminal_occupation_oh3CnKANUqYHrGPCaZaLRK?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

MikeyRavioli
Herf-A-Holic

14 years ago

#147

I am shocked its only 67%.

Only 2 out of 3 people blame the currect economic policy and rich people for their problems? Shocking.

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#148

Those were 1%ers in disguise!

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#149

Brewha wrote:

OWS = More Better!

:-({|=

dubleuhb
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14 years ago

#150

Brewha wrote:

Now that's a poll that anyone can trust, they probably took it at the protest.

Brewha
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14 years ago

#151

Well - Most people are with them in spirit – that is outside of the rarefied atmosphere of the forum.

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#152

Well - Most people are with them in spirit – that is outside of the rarefied atmosphere of the forum.

Brewha wrote:

Whew. Thank goodness it's just in spirit. I don't think the locals could handle much more of their noise, smell or garbage. Spirits don't litter or deficate on private property.:-&

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#153

Whew. Thank goodness it's just in spirit. I don't think the locals could handle much more of their noise, smell or garbage. Spirits don't litter or deficate on private property.:-&

DrMaddVibe wrote:

New York City voters agree, 67% - 23%, with the Occupy Wall Street protesters' aims and say 87% - 10% percent that it's ok that they're demonstrating, a Quinnipiac University poll finds.

DrafterX
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14 years ago

#154

I heard they wash their hands before they go but not after .... 😟

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#155

Now that's a poll that anyone can trust, they probably took it at the protest.

dubleuhb wrote:

Ah yes, don't believe anything unless it conforms with your predetermined beliefs. Typical of a brainwashed right wing dittohead.

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#156

Ah yes, don't believe anything unless it conforms with your predetermined beliefs. Typical of a brainwashed right wing dittohead.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Polls are nothing but manipulation tools. Fools live by them.

Doens't matter who it is doing the polling.

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DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#157

I heard they wash their hands before they go but not after .... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Who ya gonna call?[gonzo]

FuzzNJ
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14 years ago

#158

Let's see...I'm typing slowly...only because you have a hard time of the whole thing...David Duke was marginalized back in the 80's for being a douchebag racist. He has NOTHING to do with the Tea Party other than what? He likes them?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

"He not only won a seat in the House of Representatives in Louisiana, but he jolted the political establishment by defeating the incumbent governor of Louisiana and garnering huge numbers of votes for Governor and for U.S. Senator. He also was elected in 1996 to the Parish Executive Committee of the largest Republican Party District in Louisiana, St. Tammany Parish where the other elected members chose him unanimously to serve as chairman of the District. He served as chairman until 2000."

"Over sixty percent of the European American voters of Louisiana have voted for Rep. Duke in statewide races."

http://www.davidduke.com/general/about-2_90.html

Not as marginalized as you are making it sound.

When you have 2 ORGANIZED political parties filled with violence and hate that step up and PROMOTE that they're onboard with the OWS movement...YOU'D best take notice. They're willing to step up to the microphone and become the leader because there isn't one. The collective band of idiots with no jobs has now been relegated to the backseat. These 2 organizations have been waiting for something like this so they can spread their hate filled Anti-US moronic diatribes.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

On this we can agree, mostly. The one part I don't agree with is the third sentance.

Now had you stated it this way instead of

In addition to raising MLK to their aid they're not going to stop there...oh no...they're gonna march...GOOSESTEPPING ALL THE WAY! The claims of anti-semitism were rampant from the begining...now there's no doubt!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

then we wouldn't have had this argumenative tangent. The protesters can't let the nazi aholes end up being the voice of the movement, but the only way that would happen is if people on the right, like you, overplay this guilt by association bullsh*t ala David Duke and other racists with racist signs at tea party protests. I am pretty sure you will hear a denouncement from OWS members of their ideas and beliefs. We did not hear denouncement of the racism at tea party events only a 'that's a small minority' and 'why are you even looking at those signs it's not us, it probably is liberals disrupting' ending with everyone has a duty to protest the government.

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#159

"then we wouldn't have had this argumenative tangent. The protesters can't let the nazi aholes end up being the voice of the movement, but the only way that would happen is if people on the right, like you, overplay this guilt by association bullsh*t ala David Duke and other racists with racist signs at tea party protests. I am pretty sure you will hear a denouncement from OWS members of their ideas and beliefs. We did not hear denouncement of the racism at tea party events only a 'that's a small minority' and 'why are you even looking at those signs it's not us, it probably is liberals disrupting' ending with everyone has a duty to protest the government.

FuzzNJ wrote:

Excuse me, but YOU are playing the guilt by association game. You don't like the facts. You have to muddy it up by dragging MLK and the Civil Rights Movement into it, David Duke and your whole diatribe about the Tea Party being racist. Hello...Herman Cain...the 100% black man...yeah...the successful businessman...umm...he's backed by the Tea Party and won the straw poll here in Florida that created the surge he's enjoying now on top of the GOP current fold. Wake up and smell the OWS'ers!

You heard no "denouncement" because there was never anything racist that happened. If you're talking about that congressman that claimed he was spit on and called the "N" word...video of the entire event is out there. He was lying.

To date at the well over 300 Tea Party events across this nation...not one single arrest by someone actually attending an event. There's been some SEIU thugs that were for beating up a black man selling the Gadsden flags which ironically stated "Don't Tread On Me".

When a collective band of useful idiots have no leadership it opens the window for them to jump through. I'd be a bit worried about my message being hijacked if (thank God I'm really not though!) I were a OWS'er. They still do not have a unified message. They're still being used by morons like Sean Penn and our President.

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ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#160

I think this is an opportunity here but there are too many wack jobs in the OWS crowd.....too bad.

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