teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:01:50 PM
I bet in the end (lol nice pun eh?) Either Tom Brady or Big Ben are involved in this somehow. If it was doggy style I'd accuse Vick.
teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:55:43 PM
I just learned it's not cincinatti hotocket it's cincinatti hotplate. I was going to suggest a name change because sandusky is also in Ohio but since a hotplate involves wimmins it makes no sense. back to the drawing board.

now back to your regular programming

8trackdisco
Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:26:21 PM

Your experience is different than my 25+ years of corporate, not for profit, and government experience. It would never be an option to me just to report something of this magnitude (a child taking it in the butt in the shower room) to someone in my company then wash my hands of it. My boss would never dictate to me whether I could/should report a criminal offense to the police or not. They have simply never held that sort of authority over me. That is a truly bizaar business culture in which I would not remain for long.

That said, JoPa was not a nameless faceless corporate slug swimming up the corporate downstream. My guess is the Uni Prez was more powerful in title only for a great deal of Joe's time there.

teedubbya wrote:

25 years working for the government and you aren't familiar with ass rape?

It is a little like a sausage factory (unfortunate phrasing). The higher the bank account balance, the more eccentric the personality, they swim in a world of gray were everything is viewed through their own prism. There has to be a lot left to the story that hasn't been told.

If you raise too much hell, and mess with the power brokers of a monolith like Ped State, much like a country song, you could wake up dead. Corp america you might not be killed, but your career path would lead in direction with a non pleasing end.

Ever walk into a room and accidentally catch a sales rep and a VP rounding second base and heading for third? Saw that in December of 1994. I was gone in 90 days.

ZRX1200
Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:43:58 PM
Thank god for cell phone cameras! Now you'd be their boss.......
BuckyB93
Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:01:48 PM
Corporate politics, government politics, personal politics be damned. I wouldn't bat an eye to go to the authorities or whoever I needed to if I knew about or witnessed anything even close to what has been described.

This sickens me to the bone. I could always find another job somewhere. I'd collect shopping carts in the parking lot. I'm fine with that knowing knowing in my heart that I might have helped save a kid from a savage like this scum.

Actually, I'd probably be on highway litter clean-up duty in an orange jump suit because if I saw what is described in the court papers I would more than likely snap and take things in my own hands. Maybe wouldn't kill the perp but would definitely would do everything I could to incapacitate him.

Same holds true to any form of rape. Add the children factor... lowest of low... all bets are off.

teedubbya
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:13:20 PM
I've spent way more time in corporate America than any other setting, but do have government and not for profit experience too. My experience just must be different than yours 8. While I have seen various hanky panky in the office (I married my coworker) I'm not able to equate it to the rhythmic slapping sounds of an adult male sodimizing a child.

I also do not think I've ever worked for an employer that would punish me for going to the police if I knew young boys were being raped. To be honest they wouldn't have to fire me at that point.

Pretty rough employers in WI. Glad the fortune 500 companies I worked for were kinder places.

Yikes

8trackdisco
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:30:48 PM
Wonder if the coach that reported the issues to Joe PA is still there because he said something or if he's there because (unlike Sanduski) he didn't push it.

I'm not pro-ass rape. I'm just saying if the guy doesn't do the right thing in the beginning (take a bat to Sandusky while playing cornhole) and you go to your boss and you believe it is going to get it taken care of, it puts the guy in a spot.

There has to be much more to the story.

It doesn't add up... yet.

wvwa34
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:34:51 PM

25 years working for the government and you aren't familiar with ass rape?

It is a little like a sausage factory (unfortunate phrasing). The higher the bank account balance, the more eccentric the personality, they swim in a world of gray were everything is viewed through their own prism. There has to be a lot left to the story that hasn't been told.

If you raise too much hell, and mess with the power brokers of a monolith like Ped State, much like a country song, you could wake up dead. Corp america you might not be killed, but your career path would lead in direction with a non pleasing end.

Ever walk into a room and accidentally catch a sales rep and a VP rounding second base and heading for third? Saw that in December of 1994. I was gone in 90 days.

8trackdisco wrote:

There is a story I would like to hear more of!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????

tonyt722
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37:56 PM

There is a story I would like to hear more of!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????

wvwa34 wrote:

Which part, the ass rape or sausage factory?

wvwa34
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:41:20 PM

Wonder if the coach that reported the issues to Joe PA is still there because he said something or if he's there because (unlike Sanduski) he didn't push it.

I'm not pro-ass rape. I'm just saying if the guy doesn't do the right thing in the beginning (take a bat to Sandusky while playing cornhole) and you go to your boss and you believe it is going to get it taken care of, it puts the guy in a spot.

There has to be much more to the story.

It doesn't add up... yet.

8trackdisco wrote:

Word has it now that POSSIBLY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, That the 2nd mile foundation,that was supposed to be HELPING the kids from broken homes etc, which was taking LARGE sums of $$$$ from boosters ,corporations etc was set up and a front to those very same boosters,corporations to supply these sick fuggers lil boyz for their own pleasures and fetishes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????? UNBAFUGGIN BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!! The worst is yet to come,with out a doubt!!!!! Wait till some of these monsters start talkin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8trackdisco
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:42:54 PM

There is a story I would like to hear more of!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????

wvwa34 wrote:

They didn't raise a finger to challenge unemployment benefits request. Smart move.

Decent story over a bourbon and a smoke.

wvwa34
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:42:56 PM

Which part, the ass rape or sausage factory?

tonyt722 wrote:

8 trax walking into the boardroom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8trackdisco
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:47:08 PM

8 trax walking into the boardroom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wvwa34 wrote:

It was actually a coat closet at a night club.

DrafterX
Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:24:30 PM

Word has it now that POSSIBLY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, That the 2nd mile foundation,that was supposed to be HELPING the kids from broken homes etc, which was taking LARGE sums of $$$$ from boosters ,corporations etc was set up and a front to those very same boosters,corporations to supply these sick fuggers lil boyz for their own pleasures and fetishes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????? UNBAFUGGIN BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!! The worst is yet to come,with out a doubt!!!!! Wait till some of these monsters start talkin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wvwa34 wrote:

I heard this on a talk radio thing earlier today but was hesitant to post it.... I don't mind posting posting bogus e-mails just to stir up some sh^t but this was scary... Like 8 said, there's more to the story... it's gonna get real ugly...

wheelrite
Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:39:10 PM
Pennsylvania is a cesspool...

The Amish are to blame...

and Scrapple

wvwa34
Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:43:53 PM

I heard this on a talk radio thing earlier today but was hesitant to post it.... I don't mind posting posting bogus e-mails just to stir up some sh^t but this was scary... Like 8 said, there's more to the story... it's gonna get real ugly...

DrafterX wrote:

At the present the story can not be confirmed........... When Sandusky retired at age 55 he was a very well respected defensive coordinator in his prime ,BUT was never offered a head coaching position................ Wonder what the reason why???? Part of his retirement pkg was full use off all PSU facilities............... And the $$$$$$$$ kept rolling in from his supporters of the 2nd mile program!!!!! Still a lil foggy reading between the lines!!!?????

hambone71
Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:22:23 PM

What I've learned in 20 years of corporate America is you report the issue as best you can (something I don't think Joe did) and then let them handle (or not) handle it. You don't go back and say to your boss or boss's boss and say "Well, did you do something about that?"

If the boss or boss's boss does or doesn't take action, they wouldn't be able to share that with you anyway because it would all be under the umbrella of confidentiality.

Pre-corporate (1980s) it would have been easily solved by taking a metal pipe and putting a moderate to severe beating on Sandusky and then let him make the next move. Either he....

A- Explains how and why he got the beating.

B- Get the hell out of town.

But those were simpler days. Now we have to think about the perv's feelings and whether he may have a mental disease or defect. Maybe councilling, because he needs treatment, not prison. Blah..... blah.......... .... blah.

8trackdisco wrote:

I like the pre-corporate plan. We still do it like that in some areas of the South.

daveincincy
Friday, November 11, 2011 4:02:26 PM
Congrats, JoePa...this is now your legacy!
Gene363
Friday, November 11, 2011 8:16:12 PM

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

A tough lesson for many.