I think Rick might need an ambulance! He's
out of control! I heard bird feces can cause
insanity...or maybe it was mating with a bird
that caused insanity

Rick,

Great reply... although I think you are attempting to drag in our current administration, I do love when you actually give coherent replies.

Please note that I never said "family values," I said the "family unit." I believe there is a difference between the too. This is not about what or who's values we recognize, it's about having, knowing and loving both parents... plain and simple. It's about caring about your children enough to maybe give up a career to stay home with them. It's about knowing what your kids are doing, who they hang with, and where they're at. It's about actually spending time with your kids to teach them what the schools will not.

However, if you were attempting to bring in the gay family as "family values" we can debate that in an off topic as well.

interesting thread, except that I must take exception to the post with the "give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day" thing.
Actually it's true that if you give a man a fish you feed him for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all weekend.
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