FuzzNJ
14 years ago

About what you moron? They had already found the man NOT GUILTY!!! From the president on down this IS being turned in to a racially motivated incident...period

TMCTLT wrote:



Found 'NOT GUILTY'? lmao. Just fyi, last time I direct a post to you.


I'm sure you will say you are happy about that.
TMCTLT
14 years ago

Found 'NOT GUILTY'? lmao. Just fyi, last time I direct a post to you.


I'm sure you will say you are happy about that.

FuzzNJ wrote:




I understand it's gets frustrating when your just wrong.........🌫
rfenst
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14 years ago

The investigation had been done already. It was determined that it was self-defense. The case is only open again now because the Justice Department started looking into it and the 'mob' demanded it. It wasn't even going to the grand jury.

FuzzNJ wrote:



Autopsy report and details of findings have NOT been released. Feds are still investigating. Special prosecutor from another part of the state, appointed by the governor, just got the case. Cops may have completed their investigation at the scene, but I will bet there is a lot more info to come out: drug screen, photos of the scene and both Zimmerman and Trayvon, witness statement(s), 911 tapes, verification whether the person screaming for help was Zimmerman or Trayvon, etc. etc. Some of this stuff may not come out for a long time for strategic reasons. It is only up to the police whether to arrest right then and there. The decision to prosecute belongs solely within the discretion of the prosecutor. I think I said it in my first post. I don't think the investigation is complete.








(Oh, and btw, you are an ignorant slut, idiot, ass hole, jerk, and moron- and that proves I am right!!!)
rfenst
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14 years ago

On a separate note, anyone ever check out Fuzz's profile? He doesn't have one.....no gender specified and by his choice of words for another post...." ick " I'm betting he's a GAL.......anyone??

TMCTLT wrote:



Ad homonym abusive!!!
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Autopsy report and details of findings have NOT been released. Feds are still investigating. Special prosecutor from another part of the state, appointed by the governor, just got the case. Cops may have completed their investigation at the scene, but I will bet there is a lot more info to come out: drug screen, photos of the scene and both Zimmerman and Trayvon, witness statement(s), 911 tapes, verification whether the person screaming for help was Zimmerman or Trayvon, etc. etc. Some of this stuff may not come out for a long time for strategic reasons. It is only up to the police whether to arrest right then and there. The decision to prosecute belongs solely within the discretion of the prosecutor. I think I said it in my first post. I don't think the investigation is complete.








(Oh, and btw, you are an ignorant slut, idiot, ass hole, jerk, and moron- and that proves I am right!!!)

rfenst wrote:



Yes. You are correct that there is a lot left to be done. But the point is the DA or whomever dealt with this at the prosecutor's office did not refer the case to a grand jury. The investigation on whether or not it was justified self defense had already been determined. With the pressure from the feds and others that question is now being asked again.
Rclay
14 years ago
Rfenst - what is confusing about my previous post? The three previously mentioned "reverends" are tragedy vultures. They show up after the fact a stir up anger and racial division, get themselves on TV, take ownership of something they have nothing to do with, & pick over the remains. I want to know if they "fund raise" at these tragedies.
TMCTLT
14 years ago

Ad homonym abusive!!!

rfenst wrote:




How did we as a society EVER get by before attorneys came along?? It's unfortunate that your profession has done every bit as much to bring us to where we are as a society today as any other source, but your all very eloquent about it......=d>
herfidore
14 years ago

About what you moron? They had already found the man NOT GUILTY!!! From the president on down this IS being turned in to a racially motivated incident...period


On a separate note, anyone ever check out Fuzz's profile? He doesn't have one.....no gender specified and by his choice of words for another post...." ick " I'm betting he's a GAL.......anyone??

TMCTLT wrote:




Found NOT Guilty! HAHA. This post would be laughable if it weren't just so sad. And the rest of it, well again, just sad.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

I understand it's gets frustrating when your just wrong.........🌫

TMCTLT wrote:





He put you on "talk to the hand" probation!
TMCTLT
14 years ago

He put you on "talk to the hand" probation!

HockeyDad wrote:




That I can live with......
ZRX1200
14 years ago
OBAMA 2012 HOODIES NOW AVAILABLE FOR SALE!
rfenst
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14 years ago

Robert then having a vocal rep is fine, the media soft pawing them constantly is the part the tends to piss me off. Jackson is a bitter fool and Sharpton is a clever dirty POS.

ZRX1200 wrote:



I agree. There was a day when Jackson, like it/him or not, was valuable to our society in certain ways. Sharpton started off like a chicken with its head cut-off. But, over time and with age, and with Jackson's influence in such decline, he has IMO, improved some- not enough for my liking, but some. Still not good or great, but I stand by my prior assertion that he spoke well and did a decent job for all in front of the Mayor and City Counsel.

As to the Media, I have stopped getting angry with it. It is a profit making, amorphous entity we have no direct control over. The only thing we can do is ignore some or all of it. The slants of the Media on the different sides of the socio-political issues are inevitable. IMO, it is best to obtain info from all of them, then try to make sense of it on my own. The only group that can possibly, really change it is its source of income- Advertisers.
TMCTLT
14 years ago

Found NOT Guilty! HAHA. This post would be laughable if it weren't just so sad. And the rest of it, well again, just sad.

herfidore wrote:





That's it? Nothing to add? Answer me something....why does the media portray this young man using a 3-4 yr old photo while putting his shooter in a dim light by showing a photo in an orange jump suit at his current age?
bloody spaniard
14 years ago

That's it? Nothing to add? Answer me something....why does the media portray this young man using a 3-4 yr old photo while putting his shooter in a dim light by showing a photo in an orange jump suit at his current age?

TMCTLT wrote:



good point
rfenst
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14 years ago

How did we as a society EVER get by before attorneys came along?? It's unfortunate that your profession has done every bit as much to bring us to where we are as a society today as any other source, but your all very eloquent about it......=d>

TMCTLT wrote:



Oh, so now you turn around and attack and blame my profession and by extension myself? Ad homonym abusive!!!
Want to convey info, thoughts and ideas? Stop directly insulting people. You will gain a hell of a lot more credibility with substance over name calling.

BTW, what do you do for a living?
rfenst
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14 years ago

good point

bloody spaniard wrote:



Great point.
Don't you just love how things can be so subtly slanted in life?
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Maybe the Hispanic community should just offer this Zimmerman guy up as a sacrifice to appease the mob.
MikeyRavioli
14 years ago
Robert, you are a lawyer and from Florida.
Can you clarify the "stand your ground" statute as it relates to this case?
Being a LI NY'er I do not think I fully understand it.

From my uneducated opinion it sounds like Zimmerman made some really terrible decisions, but there is no law against being a dumb ass.
And while it may seem like a terrible law, based on what I have read, it doesn't seem like a law was broken.
Of course its the survivor of the situation that gets to tell the tale but if he was actually arrested it would be the states burden to prove otherwise.
I don't see how the state can do that.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Florida State Law 790 Weapons and Firearms
Florida State Law 776 Justifiable Use of Force
rfenst
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14 years ago

Rfenst - what is confusing about my previous post? The three previously mentioned "reverends" are tragedy vultures. They show up after the fact a stir up anger and racial division, get themselves on TV, take ownership of something they have nothing to do with, & pick over the remains. I want to know if they "fund raise" at these tragedies.

Rclay wrote:



Nothing is confusing.
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