TMCTLT
14 years ago

To get back on topic, Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin and has not been arrested. He shouldn't be arrested because people are screaming for it. He should be arrested and let a jury decide if it was self defense. Had Trayvon shot and killed Zimmerman, Trayvon would be in jail with $2 million bail.

What the kid was wearing, what his past was, what Zimmerman's past was, whether or not Trayvon was hitting him or not does not matter. That's for a jury to decide.

Jeb and the author of the bill have stated that Stand Your Ground does not apply here.

FuzzNJ wrote:





You want to get back on topic......this issue should never have left the town of Sanford!!!!!
This is in " No Way " national news PERIOD
ZRX1200
14 years ago
THE LAW PROTECTS THE SHOOTER FROM ARREST IF IT IS SELF DEFENSE.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.

HockeyDad wrote:







BITCHES!!!
FuzzNJ
14 years ago
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday that the “stand your ground” self-defense law he signed while in office should not apply to the case of a teenager who was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in his home state.

“This law does not apply to this particular circumstance,” Bush said after an education panel discussion at the University of Texas at Arlington. “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/arlington/headlines/20120323-in-arlington-jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-in-trayvon-martin-case.ece 

DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

To get back on topic, Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin and has not been arrested. He shouldn't be arrested because people are screaming for it. He should be arrested and let a jury decide if it was self defense. Had Trayvon shot and killed Zimmerman, Trayvon would be in jail with $2 million bail.

What the kid was wearing, what his past was, what Zimmerman's past was, whether or not Trayvon was hitting him or not does not matter. That's for a jury to decide.

Jeb and the author of the bill have stated that Stand Your Ground does not apply here.

FuzzNJ wrote:



To get back on topic you'd have to erase your entire thought process on this post.

We're still a nation predicated on laws. Not STREET LAWS like you want and crave, nor vigilante justice to flesh out your pound.

Your kind has wanted nothing less.

YOU have to figure out why you're so trigger happy to throw the race card when it doesn't apply. The hoodie card too and the Tea Party card. Yes, even Trayvon was drinking the tea.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Fuzzy believes Jeb now?
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday that the “stand your ground” self-defense law he signed while in office should not apply to the case of a teenager who was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in his home state.

“This law does not apply to this particular circumstance,” Bush said after an education panel discussion at the University of Texas at Arlington. “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/arlington/headlines/20120323-in-arlington-jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-in-trayvon-martin-case.ece 

FuzzNJ wrote:




It's not up to him.

He doesn't make the law. He doesn't even make the law lawier. Its on the books and regardless your edge to bring BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME into it, doesn't wash. There are 3 people that know and saw what happened. One is dead and the other 2 are already on the record.

Just like every other issue you've been on the side of, it's been wrong. Wrong in application. Wrong in morals. Wrong in thought.

Unscrew your mind from this flawed process and get right, because you're in for a bumpy ride.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Fuzzy believes Jeb now?

ZRX1200 wrote:




Nope...he wants his savior Michael Moo-re to come in and make a movie about it though...maybe Sasha Cohen could play the role of Zimmerman...who knows...who cares.

Gotta let the facts weigh the merit of the case, not make this some racially motivated powder keg for the Kenyan King to throw a summit over.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

“Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

FuzzNJ wrote:




That is exactly correct regarding the law.

In this situation however, the question is did hoodie get hunted down or did hoodie assault the innocent Hispanic.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

That is exactly correct regarding the law.

In this situation however, the question is did hoodie get hunted down or did hoodie assault the innocent Hispanic.

HockeyDad wrote:




Sounds like he was screaming for help before he shot the guy bashing in his skull.

Oh, yeah...he was confronted by Trayvon at his car and guess what...he wasn't on some neighborhood watch that night...he was doing something different.

I'll let you catch up to the factual evidence though Snickerdoodles.

Once again...BANG BANG...you've shot your load when you shudda kept yer powder dry. Once out you can't put it back in.

The Law of Averages isn't in your favor. STREET LAW sucks in the courts.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Perhaps FuzzNJ will fly down to Sanford FL and take a dump on a police car.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Perhaps FuzzNJ will fly down to Sanford FL and take a dump on a police car.

HockeyDad wrote:




Yes...take a page from the occupoopers playbook. Pee in a doorway and commit to a 24 hour plastic pail drum circle too. Just what Sanford needs.

FuzzNJ
14 years ago
The authors of Florida's controversial "stand your ground" self-defense law say George Zimmerman should probably be arrested for shooting Trayvon Martin, reports the Miami Herald.

"He has no protection under my law," former Sen. Durell Peaden told the newspaper.

Florida's law, called "stand your ground" by supporters and "shoot first" by critics, was passed in 2005 and permits residents to use deadly force if they "reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."

It is the fact that Zimmerman ignored the 911 operator's advice not to follow Martin that former Sen. Peaden says disqualifies him from claiming self-defense under the law.

"The guy lost his defense right then," Peaden told the Miami Herald. "When he said 'I'm following him,' he lost his defense."

Rep. Dennis Baxley, Peaden's co-sponsor in the Florida House, agrees with his former colleague, telling the newspaper that the law does not license neighborhood watch or others who feel "like they have the authority to pursue and confront people. That is aggravating an incident right there."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57401619-504083/author-of-stand-your-ground-law-george-zimmerman-should-probably-be-arrested-for-killing-trayvon-martin/ 
HockeyDad
14 years ago
That makes the assumption that he followed hoodie and created the confrontation. If that were the case, he should be arrested.

That doesn't match the story right now.

DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

The authors of Florida's controversial "stand your ground" self-defense law say George Zimmerman should probably be arrested for shooting Trayvon Martin, reports the Miami Herald.

"He has no protection under my law," former Sen. Durell Peaden told the newspaper.

Florida's law, called "stand your ground" by supporters and "shoot first" by critics, was passed in 2005 and permits residents to use deadly force if they "reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."

It is the fact that Zimmerman ignored the 911 operator's advice not to follow Martin that former Sen. Peaden says disqualifies him from claiming self-defense under the law.

"The guy lost his defense right then," Peaden told the Miami Herald. "When he said 'I'm following him,' he lost his defense."

Rep. Dennis Baxley, Peaden's co-sponsor in the Florida House, agrees with his former colleague, telling the newspaper that the law does not license neighborhood watch or others who feel "like they have the authority to pursue and confront people. That is aggravating an incident right there."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57401619-504083/author-of-stand-your-ground-law-george-zimmerman-should-probably-be-arrested-for-killing-trayvon-martin/ 

FuzzNJ wrote:




If you knew what happened there you wouldn't even have bothered to type that crap up.

Quit believing Unka Al, and Rev Jesse. Stop taking your marching orders from an illegal military and an Ivy Leaguer that acts stupidly.

Be your own man and not a pawn. Wait for the facts to hit instead of making them up.



Ya gotta do your job!

PS: I asked before...I'll ask again...do the Black Panthers take the same class that Detroit Avis counter workers take for facial expressions? The Major does a lot of talking but the people in the background...they don't look like they'd help you very much. I thought White people's opinions didn't matter in this? 400 years???
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Florida statute 776.013(3) says: (a) person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.



Did Zimmerman assault hoodie? That would be unlawful activity.
Did Zimmerman follow hoodie? That is lawful activity.

If hoodie turned on Zimmerman or jumped Zimmerman, was it reasonable for Zimmerman to believe he needed to use force to prevent great bodily harm to himself?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago
Z started a situation where Trayvon was in fear for his life when he was following him. He said as much in his phone call with his friend, there's a strange white man following me or something to that effect. Seeing Z get within arms reach of him from behind, which Z has said himself, and this fear put Trayvon into the position of being able to claim stand your ground, not Z. He was in fear for HIS life and no matter if he attacked first, or reacted. He of course didn't have a gun so he's the dead one. It's not who survives or who is not black that gets to be covered by stand your ground.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Florida statute 776.013(3) says: (a) person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.



Did Zimmerman assault hoodie? That would be unlawful activity.
Did Zimmerman follow hoodie? That is lawful activity.

If hoodie turned on Zimmerman or jumped Zimmerman, was it reasonable for Zimmerman to believe he needed to use force to prevent great bodily harm to himself?

HockeyDad wrote:




Your flow was all wrong!

SKITTLES AND TEA...Pop da hoodie...stop actin' stupidly...straight outta Sanford...straight outta da gated community.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

Z started a situation where Trayvon was in fear for his life when he was following him. He said as much in his phone call with his friend, there's a strange white man following me or something to that effect. Seeing Z get within arms reach of him from behind, which Z has said himself, and this fear put Trayvon into the position of being able to claim stand your ground, not Z. He was in fear for HIS life and no matter if he attacked first, or reacted. He of course didn't have a gun so he's the dead one. It's not who survives or who is not black that gets to be covered by stand your ground.

FuzzNJ wrote:





That doesn't match the story.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Z started a situation where Trayvon was in fear for his life when he was following him. He said as much in his phone call with his friend, there's a strange white man following me or something to that effect. Seeing Z get within arms reach of him from behind, which Z has said himself, and this fear put Trayvon into the position of being able to claim stand your ground, not Z. He was in fear for HIS life and no matter if he attacked first, or reacted. He of course didn't have a gun so he's the dead one. It's not who survives or who is not black that gets to be covered by stand your ground.

FuzzNJ wrote:




You're willing to start an all and all out riot over that?

Because you're wrong.

The facts are the facts and you didn't wait for them.

They're STILL coming in and yet you use the g00gl3 like a little school girl looking for Twilight pics!
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