tailgater
14 years ago

:-k 🤔
or the protesters shot up the car to make the people think the cops shot up the car to frame the protesters.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



The steaming pile on the hood should be a dead giveaway.
teedubbya
14 years ago

The steaming pile on the hood should be a dead giveaway.

tailgater wrote:



why al lthe hate towards hoodies? belecheck is one.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

why al lthe hate towards hoodies? belecheck is one.

teedubbya wrote:




[-( 🤐 🤐

He is THE Hoodie!
DrafterX
14 years ago
if the hoodie don't fit.....
rfenst
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14 years ago


Zimmerman has a new website:

TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com

Also, local news reports there will be a press conference at which Zimmerman could be present.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
teedubbya
14 years ago
Why does the LMFAO dude wear a box on his head and if someone puts a cap in his arse is it justified under Florida law?
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14 years ago
Attorneys say Zimmerman is isolated, stressed out

Published - Apr 11 2012 03:12AM EST
KYLE HIGHTOWER, Associated Press

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — The man who fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is said to be losing weight, suffering from high levels of stress and unable even to perform the simple task of buying a soda at a grocery store because of the intense public scrutiny he is under, his former lawyers say.

"He is largely alone. You might even say he is emotionally crippled by virtue of the pressure of this case," said Hal Uhrig, a former lawyer for George Zimmerman. The protests and the profound isolation of going into hiding may have pushed him "a little bit over the edge," said Uhrig and his colleague, Craig Sonner.

The two attorneys announced Tuesday they no longer were representing the neighborhood watch volunteer because they haven't heard from him since Sunday.

"As of the last couple days, he has not returned phone calls, text messages or emails," Sonner said. "He's gone on his own. I'm not sure what he's doing or who he's talking to. I cannot go forward speaking to the public about George Zimmerman and this case as representing him because I've lost contact with him."

Against their advice, the attorneys said Zimmerman contacted special prosecutor Angela Corey, who will decide if he should face charges, but prosecutors in her office refused to talk to him without his lawyers present.

"To handle it this way, suggests that he may not be in complete control of what's going on. We're concerned for his emotional and physical safety," Uhrig said.

A spokeswoman for Corey's office didn't respond to phone and email messages requesting comment, although late Tuesday Corey released a statement saying she would make an announcement on the case within 72 hours. The statement did not specify what new development in the case would be released.

Zimmerman said he shot Martin in self-defense after following the teenager in a Sanford, Fla. a gated community outside Orlando on Feb. 26. He said he was returning to his truck when Martin attacked him and that he shot the unarmed teen during the fight. He wasn't arrested partly because of Florida's "stand your ground" self-defense law.

The lack of an arrest has led to protests across the nation and spurred a debate about race and the laws of self-defense. Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic. Martin was black.

Zimmerman is unable to see a psychologist because he could be spotted. A bounty for his arrest has been issued by the New Black Panther Party. Plus, he is anxious about possible charges if the special prosecutor believes he committed a crime, his attorneys said.

Zimmerman also has been in touch with conservative talk show host Sean Hannity, who declined to reveal Tuesday evening what was said.

Uhrig said after they found out that news, the "final straw" came when they learned Zimmerman contacted Corey's office and said he wanted to meet. Uhrig said he told her he no longer had attorneys whom he called "legal advisers" representing him.

Uhrig said they were "a bit astonished" that he had contacted her on his own and that Corey and her team refused to talk to a potential defendant or suspect without counsel.

Zimmerman's current lack of an attorney shouldn't affect the speed of Corey's decision-making since any decent lawyer would advise a client not to talk to prosecutors, said Roy Kahn, a defense attorney in Miami.

"It would not be in a client's best interest to give any statement before it's his time to testify at trial," Kahn said. "Even if I believe he's 100 percent innocent ... my advice to the client would be, 'Save it for the trial. It can't help you.'"

Sonner, the first attorney Zimmerman contacted after the shooting, said he agreed to take the case on a pro bono basis until Zimmerman is perhaps charged. He said he has never talked to Zimmerman face-to-face, only on the phone, and that the 28-year-old man has gone into hiding but that he believes he's still in the U.S.

Both attorneys said they'd be willing to represent him again if he asks.

Ben Crump, an attorney for Martin's family, said they're concerned that Zimmerman could be a flight risk if he is charged with a crime since his former attorneys don't know how to contact him.

"At this point, we're just concerned that nobody knows where he is at. Nobody knows how to get to him," Crump said.

Meanwhile, tensions were rising in Sanford as townspeople awaited the prosecutor's decision. Someone shot up an unoccupied police car early Tuesday as it sat outside the neighborhood where Martin was killed. And a demonstration by college students closed the town's police station Monday.

Some residents said they worry there will be violence if Corey decides not to charge Zimmerman. Many in town believe she will announce her decision soon.

Police aren't saying what, if any, precautions they are taking.

Zimmerman set up a website therealgeorgezimmerman.com to collect money from his supporters, but the attorneys didn't know about it until they started getting questions from the news media, Sonner said. They had worked with his father and others to set up a different account and when they started getting questions about the new site, Uhrig assumed it was "bogus."

Since then, they determined the site is legitimate.

Sonner said he stands behind his statements that Zimmerman did act in self-defense, however, "I just can't proceed to represent a client who doesn't stay in contact with me."

Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. Attorney in Miami, said it is unusual for attorneys to hold a news conference to explain why they no longer are representing a client.

"The lawyers have every right to withdraw, but it's highly unusual, and it will be controversial, for counsel to describe their client's erratic behavior," said Coffey, who is now in private practice. "In the court of public opinion, the press conference was not helpful for George Zimmerman."
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
What's the saying about a client representing themselves?


:-k
HockeyDad
14 years ago
Where are we going to have the riots now?

rfenst
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14 years ago

What's the saying about a client representing themselves?


:-k

DrMaddVibe wrote:




"... has a fool for a client."

Prosecutor did the ethically proper thing by refusing to talk to him alone without his lawyers' consent. Reports arte that a decision of some sort will be publicized by end of the business day on Friday.

Anyhow, the most skeptical way to look at this is that by terminating the bro-bono (free for the public good) representation, they can now be re-hired for $$$...
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14 years ago
AG vows thorough review in Trayvon Martin case

Published - Apr 11 2012 12:38PM EST
PETE YOST, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that the Justice Department will take appropriate action in the killing of Trayvon Martin if it finds evidence that a federal criminal civil rights crime has been committed.

The attorney general made the comments in an appearance before a civil rights organization founded by the Rev. Al Sharpton.

Holder said the department will conduct a thorough and independent review of the evidence in the Martin matter. One of the department's top priorities, said Holder, is preventing and combating youth violence and victimization.

The Justice Department launched an investigation of the Martin killing three weeks ago.

"I know that many of you are greatly — and rightly — concerned about the recent shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a young man whose future has been lost to the ages," Holder told the 14th annual convention of the National Action Network, three days of discussion on race issues. Martin's parents were scheduled to hold a news conference Wednesday afternoon at the meeting.

"If we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime, we will take appropriate action," said the attorney general. "I also can make you another promise: that at every level of today's Justice Department — preventing and combating youth violence and victimization is, and will continue to be, a top priority."

Holder was interrupted at least half a dozen times by the audience during his speech with affirmations of "that's right" and "there you go," including when he said his department was working with the Department of Education, state, local, and community leaders and stakeholders to get rid of the school-to-prison pipeline.

His comments followed word Tuesday in Florida by the special prosecutor in the case that she would soon make an announcement. She has not given any more details.

Martin's parents were to speak later at a news conference at the meeting. Also Wednesday, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and leaders of African American organizations planned to announce in Washington a national campaign against "stand your ground" self-defense laws.

At an earlier news conference in New York, Bloomberg said state and local lawmakers who had previously supported laws similar to Florida's were having second thoughts.

"You just cannot have a civilized society where everybody can have a gun and make their own decisions as to whether someone is threatening or not," Bloomberg said. He said America, "where there are more guns than people," is the only democracy with such laws.

The attorney general says that Justice Department officials including Tom Perez, the assistant attorney general for the civil rights division, and U.S. Attorney Robert O'Neill from Florida have traveled to Sanford to meet with the Martin family, members of the community and local authorities.

He says representatives from the department's Community Relations Service are meeting with civil rights leaders, law enforcement officers and residents to address community tensions.

Neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman says he shot Martin in self-defense after following the teenager in a Sanford, Fla. a gated community outside Orlando on Feb. 26. He said he was returning to his truck when Martin attacked him and that he shot the unarmed teen during the fight. He wasn't arrested partly because of Florida's "stand your ground" self-defense law.

The lack of an arrest has led to protests across the nation and spurred a debate about race and the laws of self-defense. Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic. Martin was black.

On Tuesday, Zimmerman's attorneys announced they were no longer representing him and that they had not heard from him since Sunday, although he had contacted talk show host Sean Hannity and the special prosecutor.

Martin's shooting served as a theme for the three-day gathering of National Action Network activists. Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor, said at a panel following Holder's speech that Trayvon Martin is "a symbol of what's wrong" with the criminal justice system.

"I want to see the first black man who uses the 'stand your ground' defense and see if it works. Or the first white victim of the 'stand your ground' by a black defendant and see if it works," Ogletree said.

Laura Murphy, director of the Washington office of the American Civil Liberties Union, said she lived in a development that transformed from mostly black to mostly white. She said she sent emails to her neighbors when her son was home from boarding school that pleaded, "Please, do not call the police, because if you see a young black man walking around the neighborhood with a hoodie, that's my son."

She urged the audience to pack a Senate subcommittee hearing next week on proposed legislation that would ban racial profiling in law enforcement, among other things.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
And still no mention by the JD of the new black party bounty on Zimmerman.


Shocking.

Holder is a f*****g criminal and the people doing their Arsenio Hall WOO WOO during the speech need to look at the parenting of the school to prison pipeline as well.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
There would not be a civil rights investigation had hoodie been shot in Mexico by drug lords using US government supplied firearms.
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14 years ago

And still no mention by the JD of the new black party bounty on Zimmerman.


Shocking.

Holder is a f*****g criminal and the people doing their Arsenio Hall WOO WOO during the speech need to look at the parenting of the school to prison pipeline as well.

ZRX1200 wrote:




Depending on what is found, maybe he will get it right.

Word in the local media is that there is a lot of evidence that hasn't been made public yet, and that the prosecutor expects to charge Zimmerman. Of course, this came from an unauthorized statement by a close individual who was not identified.

I have no problem with an arrest of Z if there is indeed probable cause.
wheelrite
14 years ago

Where are we going to have the riots now?

HockeyDad wrote:



Why does Florida hate the black man ?

:-k
HockeyDad
14 years ago


I have no problem with an arrest of Z if there is indeed probable cause.

rfenst wrote:




I wonder if the jurors will have bounties put on their heads.
HockeyDad
14 years ago

Why does Florida hate the black man ?

:-k

wheelrite wrote:




We don't! We just haven't had a good black versus Hispanic riot in a long time and even those are always in Miami. Sanford and Orlando are overdue.
DrafterX
14 years ago

I wonder if the jurors will have bounties put on their heads.

HockeyDad wrote:




prolly just hoodies.... 😟
HockeyDad
14 years ago
They'll never find 12 'tards who will sit on this jury.

They're going to have to move it to some bumf$%k location where the locals will see giving the death penalty to a Hispanic for shooting a black as being a 2-for-1 special!
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