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rfenst
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14 years ago

#521

i just read that article with the picture of zimmerman's bloodied head. the photographer mentioned that trey had gunpower marks on the front of his hoodie which may lend credence to zimmerman's story.

"The photographer told ABC News exclusively that they did not see the scuffle that night, but did hear it. The source saw Martin's prostrate body on the wet grass and claims the gunpowder burns on Martin's gray hoodie were clearly visible; the gunpowder marks could show that Martin was shot at very close range. "

i know it doesn't look just terribly bad but it would definitely rock me. lots of players get concussions even while wearing helmets and their heads aren't even bleeding

Papachristou wrote:

No doubt that bloody photo and the attending circumstance, the time it was taken and the degree of independence of the witness, make that bloody photo highly relevant when coupled with the photographers' testimony. Nevertheless, in and of itself- it is not conclusive as it is indirect/circumstantial evidence (as opposed to direct evidence).

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#522

Im getting dizzy .

BuckyB93
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14 years ago

#523

" Z's back was wet"

Only half I thought.......???

ZRX1200 wrote:

#-o

(made me chuckle).

Gene363
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14 years ago

#524

#-o

(made me chuckle).

BuckyB93 wrote:

Me too. =d> =d> =d>

The escape pod: https://cigarbid.freeforums.net

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

14 years ago

#525

Me too. =d> =d> =d>

Gene363 wrote:

Derogatory, but me three.

Papachristou
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14 years ago

#526

rfenst wrote:

yes, i am not saying it is a fact by any means, that's why i said it may lend credence. i dont know if Z if guilty/innocent as i dont know all the facts, i just dont think he acted out of racial malice as suggested by the media and the doctored 911 tapes.

rfenst
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14 years ago

#527

CHECK THIS OUT:

Sanford's Police Chief tendered his resignation today, but the Mayor and rest of the city counsel voted to reject the offer. The Mayor's comment was that the investigation may not be complete yet and that resignation or firing is premature. Another person stated that arrest was at the discretion of the prosecutor, not the police...

Edited by user 14 years ago | Reason: Not specified

wheelrite
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14 years ago

#528

rfenst wrote:

Um,,,
They'd never find anyone to take the job..
Except maybe Barney Fife...

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#529

CHECK THIS OUT:

Sanford's Police Chief tendered his resignation today, but the Mayor and rest of the city counsel voted to reject the offer. The Mayor's comment was that the investigation may not be complete yet and that resignation or firing is premature. Another person stated that arrest was at the discretion of the prosecutor, not the police...

rfenst wrote:

STREET COURT LAWS!!!

Ahe...I think they voted and said "No" though.

wheelrite
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14 years ago

#530

ok,,

Sanford will be destroyed no matter the outcome of the trial.
It'll either be the OJ/ Bulls win Championship Riot or The Rodney King kill whitey Scenario..
Then the Pedros will think they need a riot too.
What Police Chief wans to be in the middle of that ?

get out of Central Florida while you can,,

wheel,

Edited by user 14 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#531

Sanford commissioners reject police chief’s resignation

Sanford, Fla., city commissioners voted 3-2 to reject the resignation of Police Chief Bill Lee on Monday. According to the Associated Press, the "majority blamed the uproar surrounding Martin's death on outsiders."

Lee, who last month left his post temporarily amid criticism of his handling of the Trayvon Martin case, had planned to step down permanently, according to CNN. The Sanford City Commission held a meeting Monday afternoon to vote on the resignation.

Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett said he would wait until an investigation into Lee's conduct is concluded before weighing in on the matter.

"I'm not ready to have him come back and run the police department," Triplett told CNN. "But I don't know if I'm ready for this either."

Lee--who was harshly criticized for not arresting Martin's shooter, George Zimmerman, on the night of the Feb. 26 shooting--initially announced he would step aside until the public furor receded.

"I am aware that my role as the head of the department has become a distraction," Lee said at press conference on March 22. "I have come to the decision to temporarily remove myself."

Capt. Darren Scott, who has served as interim chief during Lee's absence, will remain in that position for now.
Zimmerman was released early Monday after posting a $150,000 bond.

He was fitted with an electronic monitoring device before leaving the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said.

On Friday, Zimmerman--who's been charged with second-degree murder--apologized to Martin's family during a dramatic two-hour court hearing.

"I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son," Zimmerman told Martin's parents on Friday in his first public statement about the death. "I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. I did not know if he was armed or not."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/sanford-florida-police-chief-bill-lee-jr-step-180637247.html

Even the Commissioners KNOW it's a railroad.

wheelrite
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14 years ago

#532

I still wanna who got the kids gold teef....

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#533

wheelrite wrote:

Really?

Are your relatives outta harms way?

I've been all over the US and I can say with perfect clarity on my part that Florida is the closest I can get to paradise within the US borders.

I'd love to be on St. Barts or St. Maarten...or some other Caribbean island...BUT that's not the US...Florida offers that to me. Texas? Glad you're happy with it and I can see some positives for sure...it's not Florida though.

I'll be sure to leave a light on fer ya...you'll be back despite what you say here. We'll have a good time like last time!

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#534

I still wanna who got the kids gold teef....

wheelrite wrote:

Jesse and Al.[frypan]

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

14 years ago

#535

Local news broadcast:

1. Zimmerman's website raised $200k.
2. Z's attorney is that the $200k might have changed the amount of bail set and has scheduled a hearing on the matter for this morning (Friday).
3. Z may NOT even use a "stand your ground defense".

More to come...

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#536

Not need to? Or not allowed?

rfenst
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14 years ago

#537

Not need to? Or not allowed?

ZRX1200 wrote:

Any defense is allowed.
Probably not need. Argument would probably be that he was being beaten-up and couldn't possibly retreat. That would be my best guess. I think what will happen is that if they can't get it kicked out by the judge, they will have to consider whether to use it at trial. I think, based on what's publicly known now, they'd be foolish not to. My argument at trial would be two-fold: 1) 100% pure, justifiable use of force for self defense. 2) If not purely self defense and Z is accountable to any degree for an altercation, then "stand your ground still applies".

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#538

Sounds like a good strategy counselor.

So you take stock in the DA saying more evidence will come to light? Sounded to me like them covering their butts on a weak case they persued for political reasons.

rfenst
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14 years ago

#539

Sounds like a good strategy counselor.

So you take stock in the DA saying more evidence will come to light? Sounded to me like them covering their butts on a weak case they pursued for political reasons.

ZRX1200 wrote:

At this point, I have no choice but to wait. There is still too much missing from the public domain: investigation and lab reports; autopsy reports and photos; scene photos; witness statements and transcripts, etc., etc.

Sure this is political- no doubt- for better or worse. But, all the evidence isn't out or available yet. News sources are suing under FOI Act to get complete court file and access to investigative evidence/docs...

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#540

Sanford will be burned to the ground.

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