rfenst
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:05:19 AM

Shift work disorder......it works different for different folks. Sleep apnea is a big part also

05busa wrote:

there is an RX for shift sleep disorder...

itsawaldo
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:34:46 AM
See answers below...

You didn't expressly say it, but I presume you must be feeling poorly during the day. Having sleep related issues, here are some things to consider:

Any depression or anxiety? No real change there, job is in most ways better then ever.

Start or stop any new meds lately? Nothing new

New foods or diet or times of meals and snacks? Times consistent, nothing new, just better portions and healthier

Change in exercise pattern? More, I have to keep up with my GF, shes 10y younger then me

Any injuries or change in bodily function or condition lately? No injuries, bodily functions? See my prostate entries for that, but its been better lately, wonder why?

New matters,people or things in your life? GF, its hard to juggle, i dont know how busa does it, im an FOG you would think I could do it better now then a green young man!

New issues or problems? HAH! See above......

Going to sleep at the same time, in the same place, with the same rituals? Same time, usually, same place, rarely, same rituals, yes, brush, read and bed.

Unless you sleep with someone else, you likely cannot assess whether you have apnea.Most people don't without the aid of another...Only at home

Is this stressing you out immediately each time it happens? Vicous circle? Yes I would say a bit, then i settle down as i know its not good

Once you realize it happens, get out of bed and go to another room to read or watch TV or do something relaxing- don't do work or pay bills or the like. Read a book or magazin or newspaper or something.

Napping during the day? Everytime I get on a plane i sleep, outside of that its poor form to sleep when i'm driving!

Don't rule in or rule out sleep apnea on your own- get a sleep test- both neurologists and pulmonologists run clinics that do them. May also want o consider a drowsiness test immediately following the sleep test. yup i think its time again...

Have you been urinating more lately- if so, diabetes or thyroid problems/full blood work-up to rule out other causes. No more then usual

Do you know what is in the over-the counters. Don't Presume they are safer than RX. Thats true, cardio has approved them all for me since I have a fake heart valve so I checked with him,

I know the real answer is go back and see doctors but its always fun to hear from all you guys as some us suffer the same.

Thanks!!

Honestly I'm not that much of a cad, i've known this woman for a long time, she plays on the same team I do, girls, yes she is gay and commited as am I. We have had some somewhat intimate moments but if I was asked by my wife I'd tell her (she knows her too) work really is most likely the issue, we both work for the same company but a thousand miles apart and we have recently relized how much we genuinely like and care for each other and are pushing each other in regards to health, exercise etc to be better for our mates. All the excitment but without the guilt! I love it. But work has had a major change and we both have a real need to help each other through these changes, we want to be the survivors. We have invested a lot of time, sweat and life into this and we want to see our work through to fruition.

I really like the concern you/I all have for each other on many issues, great S/Botls here!

matchew
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:40:34 AM

The doctors are in the house!

Wheel, I like the reeefer idea but need to get through airports, a pusher in every port? I think not, but i like it!

TW, mindfullness sounds good, ill look into it

Duwan, A day without chemicals is like a day without sunshine, you have the real answer

Burner is right too, need to go back to the doc.

Wheels recap sums it up nicely, will accepct more input though

Cacman, Zen is your friend Ill look into it and the bartended is mixing me a Jack and Chamomile on the rocks as I am typing this.

nice ones gentlemen, thanks!

itsawaldo wrote:

the answer to your airport problem is invest in a good vacuum sealer.

rfenst
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:24:47 PM

Honestly I'm not that much of a cad, i've known this woman for a long time, she plays on the same team I do, girls, yes she is gay and commited as am I. We have had some somewhat intimate moments but if I was asked by my wife I'd tell her (she knows her too) work really is most likely the issue, we both work for the same company but a thousand miles apart and we have recently relized how much we genuinely like and care for each other and are pushing each other in regards to health, exercise etc to be better for our mates. All the excitment but without the guilt! I love it. But work has had a major change and we both have a real need to help each other through these changes, we want to be the survivors. We have invested a lot of time, sweat and life into this and we want to see our work through to fruition.

itsawaldo wrote:

Just to clarify that I fully understand matters which are none of my business, but which I think are salacious:

You are married, but are not at home some nights due to work travel. You have a bi-sexual girlfriend with whom you are intimate when you travel. Your wife personally knows her, but your wife does not know of the relationship...

(Not that there is anything wrong with this for you!!!)

Am I correct?

HockeyDad
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33:24 PM
You had me at salacious!
itsawaldo
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:23:37 PM

Just to clarify that I fully understand matters which are none of my business, but which I think are salacious:

You are married, but are not at home some nights due to work travel. You have a bi-sexual girlfriend with whom you are intimate when you travel. Your wife personally knows her, but your wife does not know of the relationship...

(Not that there is anything wrong with this for you!!!)

Am I correct?

rfenst wrote:

I'm with HD, fabulous usage counselor. Love a good word like that.

So kind of guilty of salacious behavior?

You Betcha!

She is not bi, wish she was, no one has been naked (yet). She is my work wife and we have a unique love affair, so I guess I'm her beard!

We are so good with each other that in another life........

wheelrite
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:27:24 PM
All chicks are bisexual,,,

I love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jackconrad
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:21:08 PM
Marry some sheep and count them..
Rclay
Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:26:49 PM
Chiropractor and hypno-therapy.

itsawaldo
Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:26:08 AM
OK ever since my C-bid confessional I have gotten some sleep this week! Yea me!

I'm going to go out and make it a good day today!

DrMaddVibe
Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:30:15 AM
You tried the Melatonin?
05busa
Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:49:02 AM
How about ridilin
DrMaddVibe
Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:54:10 AM
Maybe rugby...a nice back rub afterwards.
itsawaldo
Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:00:55 AM
^ mmmmm, no maybe NOT, not that thats a bad thing though...I am a little stressed
05busa
Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:09:26 AM
wheel will help u