Rclay
14 years ago
We don't have to worry about Paul anymore. Now his supporters will either stay strong in a movement or destroy each ther with infighting. Ideas exist without a figurehead.

I have always worried that he was not willing to defend the country. Plus legalizing drugs is a terrible idea.
wheelrite
14 years ago

We don't have to worry about Paul anymore. Now his supporters will either stay strong in a movement or destroy each ther with infighting. Ideas exist without a figurehead.

I have always worried that he was not willing to defend the country. Plus legalizing drugs is a terrible idea.

Rclay wrote:



He's a phoney like all the rest of them.

He's a big spender sleazy blow hard...
ZRX1200
14 years ago
You know I kid Wheel. Your spelling is much better than his!

Fuzzy, where ia he correct? Paul has never advocated for NO gov't. He has said he encourages as LITTLE gov't as necessary.

wheelrite
14 years ago

You know I kid Wheel. Your spelling is much better than his!

Fuzzy, where ia he correct? Paul has never advocated for NO gov't. He has said he encourages as LITTLE gov't as necessary.

ZRX1200 wrote:



I know...

but RP is a Pork King,which really isn't " Less Govt


Ron Paul runs political ads targeting Rick Santorum, accusing him of being a "fake" fiscal conservative. He criticizes Santorum's use of congressional earmarks, but Paul himself has put in for over half a billion dollars in earmarks for his district in the past two fiscal years.

First, the facts, via the American Independent:

For FY 2011, Rep. Paul submitted requests for 41 earmarks worth $157,093,544. The previous year, he submitted 54 earmarks totaling a whopping $398,460,640, including $2.5 million for a redevelopment project in Baytown, Texas. Among the essential public services that the earmark would finance were "trash cans…and decorative street lighting."

In the last Republican debate, John King asked Paul to explain his charge against Santorum. A smiling Paul said, "Because he's a fake."



He explained that Santorum portrays himself as fiscally conservative, but in the Senate, he voted to expand federal spending. Paul claimed that he himself had only voted for one appropriations bill in his congressional career, legislation that funded veterans programs. Later in the debate, he honed in on Santorum's record of voting for earmarks for his home state Pennsylvania.



The problem with Paul's attacks on Santorum's record of earmarks is that it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. It also elucidates Paul's hypocrisy.



Santorum is a proponent of big government and a defender of earmarks, though he makes a distinction between "good" and "bad" earmarks. Reo, Paul, on the other hand, pretends that he is completely against earmarks while continuing to exploit the earmark process to bring home the bacon to his own district, a practice he allegedly deplores.



Paul lards up spending bills with pork via earmarks for his Texas district, knowing that the spending bill will pass, then votes against it. He then piously claims he is against pork barrel spending, a practice he has mastered. When called out on it, he claims he's lassoing tax dollars his Texans have sent to Washington, corralling them to be driven back to his district like so many cattle rustled by black-hatted government badmen.



Paul was one of only four Republicans to ask for earmarks in the 2011 budget, according to the American Independent. The House Republican Conference voted on extending its voluntary ban on earmarks in November 2010, but Paul ignores it.



Ron Paul has exposed himself as not only being a "fake" fiscal conservative himself but a hypocrite.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Impossible!


The new guy says he wants NO gov't!
Rclay
14 years ago
Nihilism Now!

Rclay
14 years ago
Paul, IMO, never wanted to win or is so tone deaf to the basic qualities that people need/want in a leader
that he did not deserve to win.

There is a "lift your head up high and blow your brains out" mentality with all of these people.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

You know I kid Wheel. Your spelling is much better than his!

Fuzzy, where ia he correct? Paul has never advocated for NO gov't. He has said he encourages as LITTLE gov't as necessary.

ZRX1200 wrote:



Z, if you really want to have a serious conversation about politics, overall political thought or a specific policy, I'm all for it.

I won't have a serious conversation with someone who says they don't agree with Ron Paul and your response is 'Why do you hate freedom?'

It would be like me saying "oh, you like Ron Paul? You must be a drug addict."

How productive would a conversation like that be?

I'll respond sarcastically with the normal north-eastern limousine liberal elite persona I've perfectly cultivated here and mock you until the last latte of the day, but serious? Ha!

Edit: Removed an extra 'the' 'the the' was a band, but wasn't intended to be referred to in this post. fuzznj regrets the error.
wheelrite
14 years ago

Z, if you really want to have a serious conversation about politics, overall political thought or a specific policy, I'm all for it.

I won't have a serious conversation with someone who says they don't agree with Ron Paul and your response is 'Why do you hate freedom?'

It would be like me saying "oh, you like Ron Paul? You must be a drug addict."

How productive would a conversation like that be?

I'll respond sarcastically with the normal north-eastern limousine liberal elite persona I've perfectly cultivated here and mock you until the the last latte of the day, but serious? Ha!

FuzzNJ wrote:



Limo,a stretch Subaru??
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Limo,a stretch Subaru??

wheelrite wrote:



I'd tell you, but you wouldn't recognize the car, because it's imported, rare and way out of your price range. for you to even know it exists would be cruel as it is such a luxury that once you lay your eyes upon it, it will consume your every thought and you will do nothing but try to possess one. It will become your precious as it were. So the answer is no, not a stretch Subaru, but something much nicer than that dream car of yours you mentioned. Just go to bed and dream knowing that the job creators are safe and comfortable when being transported to and from the club.
Rclay
14 years ago
I'm going to burn some more patchouli and turn up the sitar music. This convo is getting spicy.
wheelrite
14 years ago

I'd tell you, but you wouldn't recognize the car, because it's imported, rare and way out of your price range. for you to even know it exists would be cruel as it is such a luxury that once you lay your eyes upon it, it will consume your every thought and you will do nothing but try to possess one. It will become your precious as it were. So the answer is no, not a stretch Subaru, but something much nicer than that dream car of yours you mentioned. Just go to bed and dream knowing that the job creators are safe and comfortable when being transported to and from the club.

FuzzNJ wrote:



oh a Hyundai...
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

oh a Hyundai...

wheelrite wrote:



That's the second car, yes. It's red and 11 years old.

But the main car! Let me tell you.

Sorry, can't tell you, but trust me.
wheelrite
14 years ago

That's the second car, yes. It's red and 11 years old.

But the main car! Let me tell you.

Sorry, can't tell you, but trust me.

FuzzNJ wrote:



it's not a Yugo, is it ?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

it's not a Yugo, is it ?

wheelrite wrote:



We converted that one into a smoker last spring. My pork shoulder, delicislavia
wheelrite
14 years ago

We converted that one into a smoker last spring. My pork shoulder, delicislavia

FuzzNJ wrote:



kewl,,
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Fuzzy.


New guy said RP wanted no gov't and was morally repugnant.


Didn't say why. I said he was wrong and explained why I felt so.


Telling by his posts content I taylored mine.

Wheel and I disagree about Paul but manage conversation just fine.
wheelrite
14 years ago

Fuzzy.


New guy said RP wanted no gov't and was morally repugnant.


Didn't say why. I said he was wrong and explained why I felt so.


Telling by his posts content I taylored mine.

Wheel and I disagree about Paul but manage conversation just fine.

ZRX1200 wrote:




I irritate people...
ZRX1200
14 years ago
You do, but in a charming way.


If you can't appreciate Wheel something is wrong with you.
wheelrite
14 years ago

You do, but in a charming way.


If you can't appreciate Wheel something is wrong with you.

ZRX1200 wrote:



awww shucks...
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