i thought it was interesting how broad witness #9s allegations were. Z hates blacks she claimed but she could not name a single specific example of anything he had done just that he and his family hated blacks and we should know that. Then she turned to the molestation claim. They were just two years apart, it doesnt add up for an 8yr old to molest a 6yr old.

rfest quote:
Today's Zimmerman news included taped jail telephone conversations between Pastor Terry Jones (Quran burner and supporter of Westboro's protests at military funerals...). Zimmerman asked the Pastor to pray with him; told him that both he and the city of Sanford need to heal; and asked the Pastor not to protest in Sanford, but to come to the jail to pray with Z instead of protesting.

^this recording seems to fit in with everything else we know Z has done

mentored black kids through program
continued mentoring at his own expense after program ran out of funding
worked with and was recognized by the black community for raising awareness of black homeless man beating by sanford pd son
spoke against sanford PD after going on ride alongs with officers to expose racial bias, sleeping on the job and general laziness.

Also on the recordings to 911 that I've heard he is always prompted by the Police operator for a race...he always went with a clothing description first!

DrMV,

yeah, ive listened to the 911 call (s) too. he sounds very level headed and doesnt give a race. it is amazing how we are all being played by the media with NBC editing the 911 calls/transcripts riling up racial hatred then they quietly fire the producer. not much mention of that though of course.

also, when the 911 operator says dont follow T, he says OK. it doesnt sound like he is running around chasing anyone getting out of breath, it sounds like he was walking. ill have to listen to it again, it has been awhile. the calls are on youtube.

Z and his attorney are f'ing up his case. the interview last night wasn't going to convince anyone of importance in his case of anything that would help him in court. Anything he said is subject to criticism and use against him in court. His lawyer has a good reputation and has handled himself in court and the media well, but last night's TV interview was IMO a very bad call. Legal cases like this where there is absolutely no new significant evidence being discovered, rarely get better. The more that goes on in this case, the worse it is going to end up for Z.

It can't get worse. He's dead man walking.

Didn't you just say that?

Lack of Chick-fil-a getting to you....

LOL! Chick-Fil-A is a sore point with rfenst. He didn't want to give up chicken nibblet thursdays but he WILL for the sake of gay marriage.=d>

lol, i saw that article about chickfila yesterday. they didnt say anything derogatory other than that they dont believe in it. what is wrong with sticking up for your beliefs? they are closed on sunday and no one bashes them for that. although it is uber annoying when i want a chicken biscuit on sunday am!

Zimmerman judge: No, I won't step aside

Orlando Sentinel


SANFORD — The ball is back in Mark O'Mara's court.

Weeks after O'Mara and co-counsel Don West asked Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to remove himself from the second-degree murder case against George Zimmerman, Lester on Wednesday rejected their request.

The defense now has two choices: Appeal Lester's ruling to a higher court or move forward with a judge who once wrote that Zimmerman had "flouted" the criminal justice system.

It was statements like those, used by Lester in a bond order, that led Zimmerman's defense to request his recusal, fearing that their client could no longer get a fair trial with this judge.

O'Mara hasn't said whether he will appeal, but Shawn Vincent, who manages Zimmerman's legal defense fund website, said once the defense has a "thoughtful response" they will post it online.

"I'm surprised he didn't excuse himself," said Orlando defense lawyer Richard Hornsby after Lester's ruling. He said O'Mara should absolutely challenge the ruling.

"My opinion is that he has no choice," Hornsby said. "His motion [to recuse Lester] was so extensive. I think they are all in."

An appeal would go to the Fifth District Court of Appeal. Hornsby said O'Mara has 10 days to decide. If he appeals and loses, "then O'Mara has to deal with it and move forward," he said.

In a bond order, Lester described Zimmerman as a manipulator who was gaming the criminal justice system by hiding $130,000 and keeping a secret passport. The judge wrote that, if not for court-ordered satellite monitoring, Zimmerman might well have fled.

He also suggested Zimmerman could face a contempt charge, something the judge himself would be required to level – not prosecutors. Winter Spring attorney Randy McClean said Lester may have gone too far with that last assertion.

"That one statement is one that Mr. O'Mara could hang his hat on," McClean said.

In his ruling Wednesday, the judge made no comment about the allegations of unfairness. He merely wrote that the motion was legally "insufficient."

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Trayvon Martin family's HOA insurance claim lands in federal court

Orlando Sentinel


Recent court filings show Trayvon Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, has filed a claim for monetary damages against an insurance company for the Retreat at Twin Lakes homeowners association in her 17-year-old son's death.

The insurance claim was revealed in paperwork filed last week by Travelers Casualty and Surety Company of America. In those documents, the insurer seeks clarification of its responsibilities in the teen's death and asks a federal judge to absolve Travelers of liability.

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About a month after the shooting, the federal filings show, Travelers issued an insurance policy to the homeowners association. "After the inception of the claims-made policy, Fulton made a claim for monetary damages ..." Travelers says "... as a result of the fatal shooting of Martin."

Travelers writes in its filing that the company "is in doubt of its rights" under the policy and "seeks a declaration of its rights and obligations with respect to the claim" made by Fulton.

The insurer has asked the court to rule that Travelers "has no duty to defend The Retreat at Twin Lakes" against Fulton's claim. The amount of Fulton's claim is not explicitly stated in the court filings, but the insurance company writes that the "amount in controversy exceeds the sum of $75,000."

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Meanwhile, records released by the Florida Attorney General's office show Fulton also filed a claim with the state's Bureau of Victim Compensation for emergency crime-victim assistance. The records show Fulton's claim was approved March 29.

Crump said the Martin family has not completed all the paperwork needed to get the funds, but if they do, they plan to donate the money to the foundation they created in their son's name to prevent gun violence.

Cash Rules Everything Around Me get the money Here we here we go dolla dolla bill y'all

Wu Tang, bitches!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/09/13201091-zimmerman-attorney-plans-to-call-for-stand-your-ground-hearing?lite 

too bad judges are elected in FL. No way he will dismiss it.

Zimmerman Prosecutors In Huge Screw-Up


Photo of dead Trayvon Martin, college docs mistakenly released

AUGUST 9--In an embarrassing screw-up, Florida prosecutors today accidentally distributed a post-mortem photo of Trayvon Martin as well as copies of George Zimmerman’s college records, material that Florida law considers confidential and exempt from disclosure.

The documents were inadvertently included in supplemental discovery records distributed this morning by prosecutor Angela Corey’s office. The material was sent to a variety of media outlets, including TSG, that have paid fees to receive discovery provided by the government to Zimmerman’s lawyer.

The photocopied picture of Martin was one of three taken by an unnamed witness. The photo mistakenly released by Corey is a black and white copy of an image depicting the teenager lying face down on a lawn.

After distributing the picture, a Corey aide sent an e-mail to reporters noting that a “photo depicting the killing of a person” was “confidential and exempt” pursuant to state law.

Zimmerman’s Seminole State College of Florida records--61 pages in total--include his original application to the community college and his class transcripts. The documents detailed Zimmerman’s poor grades, which landed him on academic probation last year.

Zimmerman, who was studying for an associate degree in criminal justice, did not graduate last year due to a failed class. Following the February 26 shooting of the unarmed Martin, Zimmerman “was issued administrative withdrawals” for three classes in the Spring 2012 term “with no fees charged against his account.” (3 page)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/george-zimmerman-records-mistakenly-released-684512 



Anyone care to bet that this was on purpose?

Sounds like these might be the perfect people to find Obama's college records!

Are they Democrats ?

I dunno...but they did hide the Rose Law firm documents for quite a LONG time with the world searching for them!

They were found and turned over to the FBI...they put them in the Murrah federal building in OKC.

How are comparable circuit court level judges put in office in your state?

Robert - our magistrate judges (lowest level handling low value civil, family law, probate, initial criminal hearings, and non-felony criminal) are appointed from a pool of applicants by a committee of the bar. every few years, they face a public retention vote. The district court (felony and large-dollar civil) are public election.

Jojo, I can trust you.
How are things looking for the Aztec Jimmy Kimmel these days?