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DrMaddVibe
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13 years ago

#41

Howdy, TW. I'll run if you run.👍

bloody spaniard wrote:

Please...can we give poor Bawstawn a break?

tailgater
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13 years ago

#42

The moderator is good or bad depending on if your guy win or not. It's a tell, intentional or not.

If you listen to the fact check you will hear her agree with Romney's larger point but correct the smaller point.

teedubbya wrote:

The moderator isn't supposed to agree or correct anybody. Especially when her "correction" was in regards to the subjective meaning of Obama's Rose Garden address.

I know it's difficult to contain two ultra large egos like Romney and BHO, but to have her interject her interpretation of the Presidents words?? She's a disgrace and an embarrassment.

teedubbya
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13 years ago

#43

tailgater wrote:

I've already got the runs Blood. Letsw do it. (run for office... not what you were thinking).

Tail I disagree, but thats fine. I actually wish there was more real time fact checking done for these lying bastids. As for rules or what any of them should and shouldn't have done, none of them followed any of the rules really. I sort of wish there were none. Actually I like lincoln douglas rules.

Again, she said Romnewy was right on the larger issue, and wrong on the smaller issue and to me was accurate.

But she is fugly and I hope to never see her again.

dstieger
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13 years ago

#44

Wait....what? Somebody is trying to fix the deficit?

HockeyDad wrote:

No. I've looked and looked. Can't find one politician not named Ron Paul that gives a flying feral fig about the deficit

teedubbya
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13 years ago

#45

No. I've looked and looked. Can't find one politician not named Ron Paul that gives a flying feral fig about the deficit

dstieger wrote:

they have attention deficit, as in don't pay attention to the deficit. Back in the 80s that was an issue with Ronnie as well. Sure its a bigger issue now, but it was the one thing that kept dogging him.

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DrMaddVibe
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13 years ago

#46

tailgater wrote:

More importantly...it appeared The One was opening the door for her to clarify his words by asking her to go to the transcript.

Okay...lets.

Rose Garden

September 12, 2012 10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

END
10:48 A.M. EDT

Everyone catch it?

Here's the CNN website...9 days after the attack...http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/africa/libya-investigation/index.html

C'mon...we were all over the lies the Kenyan King's administration have perperatrated since it went down!

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/623459/Dead-US-Diplomat-Obama-Keeps-Political-Schedule

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/624239/So-I-guess-werere-gonna-let-this-Libya-thing-blow-over-

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/623649/Why-would-Obama-lie-about-the-attack-

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/623821/Libyans-storm-Islamist-militia-base-in-Benghazi

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/623492/Hope-and-Change-Fails-in-the-Arab-World

snowwolf777
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13 years ago

#47

Great point!!!

I think they are really just people who usually affiliate with one party and are still considering voting for the other, but just can't make the call yet. They are also probably also more affluent, better educated and know both side's platforms BETTER than the average voter...

rfenst wrote:

I can get behind some of that. Affluent last night, maybe, because all the questions were coming from folks who live on Long Island. Not many of the questions were the type that made me think they were either smarter or better informed on the candidates. Either run-of-the-mill questions or esoteric pet issues that won't weigh heavily at the ballot box.

Kind of like that twinkle dick that asked the first question of the night. "Hey junior - I would highly advise you to not hang around and wait for either candidate to manufacture you a good paying job. Get off your whiny ass and work your way into one."

If I sat around all my life waiting for any president from either party to make me a good paying job, I couldn't afford a pack of White Owls, let alone these Opus X daily smokes that I light with $100 bills.[frypan]

snowwolf777
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13 years ago

#48

snowwolf777 #40

May I just inject a town hall forum comment and then move on:

NO YOU MAY NOT, BUT U MAY TAKE TWO UMBRELLA STEPS.

IF U DON'T KNOW THE REFREENCE ASK SOMEONE OVER 60.

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

I'm sure the broom rider who pretended to moderate last night would have loved for Mitt to play "Mother May I?"

DrMaddVibe
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13 years ago

#49

snowwolf777 wrote:

I really would've like it if BOTH of them would've told him to get off the pot and day dreams. Obama cudda grabbed him like Darth Vader in a chokehold lifting him up off the ground saying..."It's not MY job to get YOU a job"...while Romney is kicking him in the nuts yelling..."and if elected it's not MY job either!"....then discard the guy by throwing him to the ground...both candidates shoulder to shoulder beau'd up ties loosened...jackets unbuttoned..."Anyone else got any other stupid assed questions like this or are we gonna talk about what's REALLY wrong with American and how either one of us can fix that?"

Well...one can dream!

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snowwolf777
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13 years ago

#50

DrMaddVibe wrote:

If they would have had the guts to do that, then I would be an undecided voter today. I'd let 'em both run the country for 4 years. They could have black concert t-shirts - Obama-Romney "No More Pansies" Tour 2013 - then a list of cities and dates below. 🖐

tailgater
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13 years ago

#51

Tail I disagree, but thats fine. I actually wish there was more real time fact checking done for these lying bastids.

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teedubbya wrote:

If the moderator were supposed to be the real time fact checker, then I'd agree.

She can't just decide to check just ONE "fact". Even if it weren't taken out of context, this would be an issue with anyone who simply wants the moderator to be neutral.

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#52

DrMaddVibe wrote:

😟

DrMaddVibe
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13 years ago

#53

😟

DrafterX wrote:

Wha???

C'mon....the jokes don't write themselves...neither do the musings!

Like it's been pointed out already....where did they find "undecideds"? Under a rock? Listen to most of those questions...I was waiting for THE question...."Boxers or Briefs". What a joke and travesty the big disconnect that these non-thinking people conjure up. Dare for the "important" questions....Coke/Pepsi....McDonalds/Burger King...Spicy or Original or better yet...why can't we get a couple of people that are willing to get arrested for daring to ask a REAL question? While we're at it...what do ya say to letting ALL of the candidates that are on your ballot up on the stage...what are they afraid of?

teedubbya
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13 years ago

#54

tailgater wrote:

I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#55

I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.

teedubbya wrote:

she showed you her tits didn't she....[-x 😳

teedubbya
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13 years ago

#56

she showed you her tits didn't she....[-x 😳

DrafterX wrote:

if she did I would hate her

I just think its pretty predictable who will like and not like the moderator. And the conspiracy stuff (likethinking obama was trying to have her look at the transcript rather than telling eveyone to do so etc) is laughable.

I guess I dislike both candidates enough to not see the awful inequities and atrocities that are happening towards either.

I thought she did alright. I did have a bit of a problem with Max Headroom insisting he wanted to speak (at the beginning) rather than following the format. her answer is lets get the next quesiton asked and you can talk about whatever you want....

you could bithch about that but it makes no difference. folks see what they want to.

HockeyDad
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13 years ago

#57

snowwolf777 wrote:

Instead....and no matter who wins....

The concert t-shirt will read "Pansy Nation - 2012" then a list of every city and dates below!

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#58

I liked Romney's comment about the Appology Tour.... I wonder if Obama had t-shirts made for that..?? 🤔

DrMaddVibe
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13 years ago

#59

Instead....and no matter who wins....

The concert t-shirt will read "Pansy Nation - 2012" then a list of every city and dates below!

HockeyDad wrote:

OR

Broke Yer Back Nation 2012

tailgater
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13 years ago

#60

I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.

teedubbya wrote:

So a moderator of a presidential debate is supposed to insert her own input while the two candidates are discussing a topic? And this input can be completely random, because it's not offered for all facts and figures?

Let's forget that she told Romney to "sit down".
Let's forgive her for allowing the incumbent Obama a full 10% more speaking time.
But to have her interject with "it's in the transcript" is unfair and in fact misleading to JQ Public.

Read the transcript.
The "acts of terror" that Obama spoke about in the Rose Garden were CLEARLY in reference to the 2001 9/11 attacks.

If I write a scathing letter to your boss telling her that "TW loves women to sit on his lap at lunch time", I can't later claim that I sent a letter stating simply that "TW loves women".
Or could I? I mean, it's in the transcript. Verbatim.

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