That hasn't worked any better than the government fixing it! There are a lot of big people in the USA. If there is a hunger problem we need to redistribute the food.

HockeyDad wrote:

but brew it is just that simple, people helping other people. We don't need a government entity telling us how to do it. as we all know efficiancy is not in the gov. dictionary.

leftyposthole wrote:

I don't believe (and you can correct me if I'm wrong) that infrastructure spending technically falls under "socialism". You aren't transferring money/property from one group to be redistributed, you're collecting $$ and creating structures and services which are available to everyone (some to a greater extent than others).

victor809 wrote:

Victor, as I stated above I believe in the sanctity of life, all life, an unborn chid cannot defend itself, so no I cannot abide abortion. Contraception is none of my business. I do believe in tradional marriage between a man and a woman, however, again that is not my business nor my place to judge.

leftyposthole wrote:

We all have a responsibility to educate the young

Brewha wrote:

Well, it is not capitalism. It is ‘social ownership’. What would you call it?

Brewha wrote:

Ok, so when I was a younger man I argued that I should not have to pay school tax on my home. I had no children. Why should big brother take my money and redistribute to educate the kids of those people that don’t even own homes?
The reason of course, is for the common good. We all have a responsibility to educate the young - Even the selfish misanthrope who would allow a man to die in the street.

Complain if you will about how good we as a people at spending the money. But don’t shirk responsibility and call it freedom.

brew if the gov. was not in every facet of our lives, there would not be the pull in every direction. We would handle it ourselves on the local level. We have become so indoctrinated in the someone needs to do something mentality, when in actuallity it is us that should be doing it. Simple yes.

leftyposthole wrote:

Yea you are right. He does suck and did nothing right. No one else is to blame. Buncha idoits and their stuff wanting obsession have ruined this country.

teedubbya wrote:

So you're okay with gay marriage, contraception, abortion etc etc?

victor809 wrote:

don't know... never read it defined anywhere. Doesn't strike me as fitting in the strict definition of socialism is all.


That's easy. I gladly pay school taxes because schools reduce the chances of annoying children breaking into my home during the day. I benefit from educated youth. That again isn't necessarily socialism. I'll agree that any welfare/housing is a socialist concept.... I don't see infrastructure or even some standardized gov't programs as such, and I'd like to see it defined in a poly-sci/econ manner.

As for people dying in the street... I had to live in Madison WI for too many years. Homeless people flocked there because of the sucker college students and current hippies everywhere. Feed them and more pop up. It's so bad they talked about building "wet" shelters because some of the homeless refused to stay sober long enough to be allowed into the regular shelters and they froze to death outside. Seriously... at the point where you'd rather be drunk and stuck outside in a midwest winter, than sober and warm... darwin needs to step in.

victor809 wrote:

What about contraception and abortion?

I don't want to pay for either one. End of story.
They are both elective, and therefore the cost should be the responsiblity of the person themselves.

But the dumb ass liberals simply don't understand this.
They claim that they are denied "access".
Friggin good-for-nothing leaches.

tailgater wrote: