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frankj1
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13 years ago

#61

I understand your sentiment Frank and its certainly a reasonable one.

Guess I am tired of all recent administrations seemingly getting away with what they have and I have doubts that anyone of consequence will ever really be held accountable.

Letting an embassy be overrun doesn't scream protecting intelligence.

ZRX1200 wrote:

I am unable to argue against your position, much as I wish I could.

dpnewell
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13 years ago

#62

Frank,
Is all this smoke and mirrors in the interest of "national security", or is national security just a smoke screen to cover certain folks asses? That's the million dollar question.

frankj1
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13 years ago

#63

Frank,
Is all this smoke and mirrors in the interest of "national security", or is national security just a smoke screen to cover certain folks asses? That's the million dollar question.

dpnewell wrote:

David,
You know I respect you and I want to know the answers myself. No side owns ass covering. I'm just trying to be patient.

When one despises a group, it's so easy to immediately believe the worst. And I'm OK with that, for other people. But I need to make sure that, at least for me, I'm not hoping and praying for the worst just to make my side look cleaner. The worst is bad for all Americans regardless of who is in the White House. But I never wished for total failure on the part of administrations with whom I had differences. I expected failure but hoped for success.

I only hope there is an explanation and that national security explains it. But I will not defend the indefensible.

And I do not, nor do I know anyone who does, own a pair of knee pads. Well, maybe one guy but he lays carpet for a living.

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bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

#64

WTH is this- the annual meeting of the Back Slappers You're OK I'm OK Let's agree to Disagree They're All the Same Mutual Admiration Society?😝 😍 😂

If you can't tell the difference between an oral and an anal thermometer without tasting it... this current blend of inept and/or calculated jackals is the worst tasting experience since Carter.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#65

So they didn't get to you..??? 😕

If they did you better be prepared to cut that cheese and give me half.... 😠

frankj1
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13 years ago

#66

bloody spaniard wrote:

ah, you thought this before you had any reasons. hang everyone that disagrees, investigate later. welcome to gridlock and a sinking nation. Nice.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#67

Bloody's been trying to get under da cone.... you think hes gonna nark us out in exchange..?? 😕

frankj1
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13 years ago

#68

I'll see if I can get him in but it's pretty crowded.

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#69

I heard he's willing to do 'anything'.... just so ya know.... 🤔

rfenst
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13 years ago

#70

GOP opposition to diplomat Rice begins to crack
Nov 25 2012

ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican opposition to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice as the next secretary of state began to crack Sunday as Sen. John McCain said she was "not the problem" in the White House's handling of the Sept. 11 attack in Libya and suggested he could be persuaded to swing behind her possible nomination.

McCain's comments provide an opening for the Obama administration, which struggled mightily in the weeks leading up to the Nov. 6 election to tamp down speculation of a cover-up involving the attack against the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi. The assault killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya.

At issue is Rice's account — as the administration's representative on the Sunday talk shows Sept. 16 — that the violence was the spontaneous result of a mob angered by an anti-Muslim video posted on YouTube. She said she relied on talking points provided by the intelligence community that were later discredited.

"I think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position," McCain, R-Ariz., told "Fox News Sunday." ''But she's not the problem. The problem is the president of the United States" who misled the public on terrorist involvement.

McCain's remarks were in contrast to his previous stance that Rice wasn't qualified to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is expected to step down soon as the top U.S. diplomat, and that he would do "whatever is necessary" to block Rice's possible nomination.

Rice is widely seen as Obama's first choice for the job as secretary of State. As the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, McCain would have considerable sway in the Senate's screening of Rice.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, McCain's close friend and colleague on the committee, told ABC "This Week" he still suspects the White House intentionally glossed over obvious terrorist links in the attack to keep voters from questioning Obama's handling of national security.

But instead of repeating his prior assertion that he was "dead set" against a Rice promotion, Graham suggested he looked forward to hearing her out. If Rice were nominated, "there will be a lot of questions asked of her about this event and others," said Graham, R-S.C.

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Thankfully, these two clowns didn't "jump the gun" a week or two back...

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ZRX1200
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13 years ago

#71

Yeah these two clowns were out whoring a lie to avoid an election "bump in the road".........

Gimme a fuggin break.

rfenst
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13 years ago

#72

Yeah these two clowns were out whoring a lie to avoid an election "bump in the road".........

Gimme a fuggin break.

ZRX1200 wrote:

Rice was out election whoring? She knew she was providing false information? Give some current, real proof she did that-other than McCain's and Graham's rank speculation.

Last I read, there hasn't even been ANY sworn testimony or "smoking gun" document. Two old men slander Rice and simply get to say: "Oops, maybe I will have to give my over-extended position reconsideration."

Seems to me they need to call another press conference and profess their current retractions, just like the one in which they "jumped the gun" and made their public allegations against Rice.

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

#73

Any idiot could have figured out that there was no real anti muslim video out there causing riots by just googling a bit.:^o
Someone told Rice to go out & repeat nonsensical talking points which she gladly did for almost a week even after the silliness became obvious. She's obviously an apparatchik for the administration. Hillary deserved an academy award for her performances as well. Obama... let's just say he wasn't as smooth.

Use of rocket propelled grenades on 9/11 might have been a clue that this was preplanned and not the utter nonsense parroted about a "vile video" which could only have been previewed (short version) at the time anyway and was rather comical IMHO.

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ZRX1200
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13 years ago

#74

You joking or serious?

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

#75

Folks, Z is obviously referring to a poster who once demanded "proof" at my assertion that Katie Couric was far to the left as he scrunched his brow in disapproval & poo-pooed my notion. He is now demanding proof about Rice disseminating false info on purpose... He's making a mockery of dis heah courtroom.[gonzo]

(sorry for the threadjack & goonite Mrs. Calabash wherever you are)

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ZRX1200
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13 years ago

#76

This Mrs Calabash?:

rfenst
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13 years ago

#77

bloody spaniard wrote:

Yeah, and your reply was a load off-topic "huh-muh-nah huh-muh-nah huh-muh-nah" crap. Next time there is a lynching, I suspect you will be amongst the very first there who doesn't even know why the lynching is going down. And, "because the lynchers said so"- won't be a legitimate answer.

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

#78

Thank you.🍺

Rfenst, I suspect that you've always asked questions with obvious answers but demanded the proof regardless- much as a child does.

..and you're right, being human I've made wrong assumptions based on insufficient facts but I don't need to use a hammer to know what it does. Sometimes you can take a carpenter's word.](*,)
At times you remind me of a blend of Dershowitz, Lanny Davis, and Mr. Johnny (Cochran)- the good, bad, and the ugly.

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ZRX1200
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13 years ago

#79

Poor Ms Rice.

She qualified but is clueless as to the truth. Not asking questions is great for partisans though.

I hear if you think she's a useful idiot you're racist.

New tactic by dems.

*ahem*

*ahem*

rfenst
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13 years ago

#80

bloody spaniard wrote:

OK. Let's take McCain and Graham at their words:

1) She did it, knew it was wrong and is responsible. Therefore, let's destroy her potential appointment.
or
2) She probably didn't do it and was mislead by the info supplied to her. Now, we are not so sure so we won't rush to judgment and will fairly consider her potential nomination.

Hammering an important issue and trying to keep it at the forefront is laudable. Everything else was crap... for now. That should hit the nail right on top of its head for you. Be careful not to hit your thumb

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