rfenst
13 years ago

Probably because most people couldn't comprehend the magnitude of the amount of money the Wall Street banksters are stealing.

DadZilla3 wrote:



"The media" doesn't know it or understand it either. None of us really do. It is complex beyond belief and most people's ability to understand the complexities.

IMO, sad as it may ideally seem, this is simple human nature. there are haves and there are have nots. The haves keep the have nots in check and everything goes fairly smoothly for a long time- with a few bumps in the road.

I do not think there is a single economic system in the world that isn't grossly corrupt. I don't think one will ever exist. Wall Street is the world's banker as well. All the players are in on it and we cannot beat them. Money and time ALWAYS wins.

i try not to worry about it or let it bother me and instead just focus on bettering my economic position. i find it more productive and much less disappointing. I could fight and complain and vote all the different ways others do and i just don't think it will make any real difference.
DadZilla3
13 years ago

"The media" doesn't know it or understand it either. None of us really do. It is complex beyond belief and most people's ability to understand the complexities.

rfenst wrote:


Very true. For me, I recommend a couple of excellent documentaries and one dramatization that helped me at least begin to understand the political and economic dynamics of what has been going on 'behind the curtain' on Wall Street and Washington:

PBS Frontline: The Warning
'Long before the economic meltdown, one woman tried to warn about the threat to the financial system'
http://video.pbs.org/video/1302794657/# 

PBS Frontline: Inside the Meltdown
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/view/ 

HBO movies: Too Big to Fail
http://www.hbo.com/movies/too-big-to-fail/index.html 
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Yet oddly, the media keeps directing our attention to the outrage of the poor stealing.

And in keeping with the oddness, we seem to love it . . .

Brewha wrote:





Outrage is best when properly directed.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

"The media" doesn't know it or understand it either. None of us really do. It is complex beyond belief and most people's ability to understand the complexities.

IMO, sad as it may ideally seem, this is simple human nature. there are haves and there are have nots. The haves keep the have nots in check and everything goes fairly smoothly for a long time- with a few bumps in the road.

I do not think there is a single economic system in the world that isn't grossly corrupt. I don't think one will ever exist. Wall Street is the world's banker as well. All the players are in on it and we cannot beat them. Money and time ALWAYS wins.

i try not to worry about it or let it bother me and instead just focus on bettering my economic position. i find it more productive and much less disappointing. I could fight and complain and vote all the different ways others do and i just don't think it will make any real difference.

rfenst wrote:




[-x 😳 😳


It's not complex. Centralized banking is a criminal empire. Making money out of nothing, erasing wealth chasing inflation or creating bubbles for an over inflated market aren't hard to understand. When someone or something isn't willing to be compliant or transparent it's because there's a crime going on. Doesn't matter who either.

As for the "media"...They KNOW. They're compliant and getting paid to shut their yaps...create more reality tv for the masses and report deflection! "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"...just tune in for another episode of Jersey Shore and read all about Kim Kardashian's big ass.

The stuff Dadzilla put up is all stellar stuff.

Websites like...

http://www.zerohedge.com 

http://www.financialsense.com 

Will give you the information the paid off media conglomerates WON'T!


There won't be any effective change until the whole damn thing crashes down. Watching the filthy rich cling to "theirs" and their powerbase is what should be on tv. Expose them. The Gary Winnick's, Warren Buffet's and Mark Hurd's of the world...grabbing with both hands making their shady quid pro quo deals. Getting away with stuff that the average citizen doesn't even dare dream about doing while crafting legislation to line their pockets with a corrupt political system gets theirs too!

Rinse, Lather...REPEAT.

There won't be any real change until it implodes on the debt it created. Ever been to Vegas and see a guy that's had a real bad run? Wiped out. Thinks he can make it all back or take the loss slighter if only he had more dough. Sells his watch...cufflinks...oh the pawn shops are littered with the stuff...say...more much see tv..tune into "Pawn Stars"! The jokes just write themselves...anyways, back to the gambler...runs his credit cards up to the max, maybe takes out new ones...sells the car, the house the kids so he can go back in there and break the house. He's gonna git his! Only he doesn't. There's a reason why The Strip is littered with massive hotels, shows, buffets and everything under the sun...except the sun. They want it ALL. They want that person to come back in crawling so they can take EVERYTHING and then throw them out the door. Same for Centralized banking. The Federal Reserve is the most criminal of enterprises that I'm really surprised we haven't heard real mobsters running rackets say they wish they'd gone into a life of banking in any sort of testimony! I believe that the system hasn't completely fallen down yet because the filthy rich haven't completely secured an exit strategy where they get to keep everything they have. They have NO problem with you or me getting a haircut. They just like the "stuff".

As for taking care of you and yours...that's ALL you can do. Live as debt free as possible. Don't be a slave to debt. They HATE that. Take care of your family and teach them the same. Let them try to set up the next generation and tell us Camelot.


PS: Even with all of those fine documentaries...written articles like what Rolling Stone had and all of the information we now know about how the bailouts, buyouts and gimmie gimmies were just a massive swindle on the American taxpayer...nobody has gone to jail. No money recovered. Think it's going to change any time soon? The meter is running.
Brewha
13 years ago
Funny but I’m still thinking about some poor guy spending the last of his welfare in a sleazy den of iniquity. Smoking his Basic cigarettes on what is left of his last good lung, while some trollop named Mercedes prattles on about her life and her need to sell more lap dances. There his sits, continually to dwindle in the twilight realm of his own secret thoughts . . . .
rfenst
13 years ago

Funny but I’m still thinking about some poor guy spending the last of his welfare in a sleazy den of iniquity. Smoking his Basic cigarettes on what is left of his last good lung, while some trollop named Mercedes prattles on about her life and her need to sell more lap dances. There his sits, continually to dwindle in the twilight realm of his own secret thoughts . . . .

Brewha wrote:



Yeah, but Wall Streat is keeping him down!
DrafterX
13 years ago
I saw Mercedes' boobs once..... 😟
BuckyB93
13 years ago
This is nothing new. Here in MA they have been doing it for years and its all legal. They even busted a guy who used it to get cash to try to bail his buddy out of jail. The state government stepped up this past summer to crack down on the abuse by banning MA EBT card use at places like casino’s, cruise ships, liquor stores, adult entertainment venues, firearms dealers… They still can use them for the purchase of ā€œindividual itemsā€ like tattoos, guns, jewelry, getting your nails done….

Oh, they still use them at ATM machines to take out cash.

Liquor store clerk: ā€œSorry, you can’t use that card here anymore.ā€
EBT Card guy: ā€œReally? Oh Snap! Be right back, I’ll hit the ATM.ā€
DadZilla3
13 years ago

This is nothing new. Here in MA they have been doing it for years and its all legal. They even busted a guy who used it to get cash to try to bail his buddy out of jail. The state government stepped up this past summer to crack down on the abuse by banning MA EBT card use at places like casino’s, cruise ships, liquor stores, adult entertainment venues, firearms dealers… They still can use them for the purchase of ā€œindividual itemsā€ like tattoos, guns, jewelry, getting your nails done….

Oh, they still use them at ATM machines to take out cash.

Liquor store clerk: ā€œSorry, you can’t use that card here anymore.ā€
EBT Card guy: ā€œReally? Oh Snap! Be right back, I’ll hit the ATM.ā€

BuckyB93 wrote:


It's only fair, after all. Just because they don't earn their own money, that doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to spend someone else's.
rfenst
13 years ago



Oh, they still use them at ATM machines to take out cash.

Liquor store clerk: ā€œSorry, you can’t use that card here anymore.ā€
EBT Card guy: ā€œReally? Oh Snap! Be right back, I’ll hit the ATM.ā€

BuckyB93 wrote:



Be right back? Screw that!

The store owner should just put one of those privately owned ATM machines at the back of his store and charge a fee of as much as $2.50. That's what I'd do- it is much easier than inconveniencing the customer to run out and drive around to another ATM machine. The customers would appreciate my thoughtfulness.
wheelrite
13 years ago
I'm outraged !!

Crack Dealers should be allowed to accept food stamps !!
rfenst
13 years ago

Even with all of those fine documentaries...written articles like what Rolling Stone had and all of the information we now know about how the bailouts, buyouts and gimmie gimmies were just a massive swindle on the American taxpayer...nobody has gone to jail. No money recovered. Think it's going to change any time soon? The meter is running.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



The only way it could change would be a MAJOR low and middle class takeover of politics. Would take either decades and decades or longer or a revolution with the have nots taking down the haves. But, the haves won't let that happen by bribing the people with just enough to keep things going If it does happen,the new leaders will become equally corrupt in a matter of years. Human nature. Power corrupts. None of this will really ever change. i don't condone it all, but i just don't think there will ever be away out from under the yoke.
pdxstogieman
13 years ago

It's like the $500 purse purchases with the Katrina cards... seems like there was fraud when applying for aid to me... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



I just can't wait for your next post about the titans of the banking criminal enterprise legalizing the theft of trillions of dollars from you, me, AND the poor bastids that you highlight as THE problem because of the petty misuse of relative peanuts.
DrafterX
13 years ago

I just can't wait for your next post about the titans of the banking criminal enterprise legalizing the theft of trillions of dollars from you, me, AND the poor bastids that you highlight as THE problem because of the petty misuse of relative peanuts.

pdxstogieman wrote:



:-k
what's the limit..?? $100... $1000.... $10,000...???? how much is ok to steal or abuse..????
HockeyDad
13 years ago
I don't see how you people even have time to care about this......don't you know we have a flu epidemic!? Get your shots!
DrafterX
13 years ago
I was too late to get my shot..... šŸ˜ž
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