TMCTLT
13 years ago

Finishing the border fence and enforcing the law only addresses the "supply" side of the illegal Hispanic immigration/labor issue. Being unable to recall benefiting from illegal immigrant labor ignores the "demand side". If you cannot see both, you are missing the picture.

rfenst wrote:




I'm NOT missing ANYTHING.....and just becuase you say so doesn't make it true. I have NO USE for " Cheap Illegal Labor" because in the end it ISN"T cheap for the rest of us. You legal types sure can twist the fuqin truth
rfenst
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13 years ago

I'm NOT missing ANYTHING.....and just becuase you say so doesn't make it true. I have NO USE for " Cheap Illegal Labor" because in the end it ISN"T cheap for the rest of us. You legal types sure can twist the fuqin truth

TMCTLT wrote:



Quit crying. No one twisted anything. If you do not want to accept the fact that you have benefited from cheap illegal labor in the past, you are in denial.
dpnewell
13 years ago

Quit crying. No one twisted anything. If you do not want to accept the fact that you have not benefited from cheap illegal labor in the past, you are in denial.

rfenst wrote:



Double negative, so that means you're agreeing with Paul's statement. I couldn't resist, Robert. I mean how many times do I get to bust a lawyer's nuts?
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Quit crying. No one twisted anything. If you do not want to accept the fact that you have not benefited from cheap illegal labor in the past, you are in denial.

rfenst wrote:




Not everyone has benefited from cheap illegal labor. It is too broad an assumption.
z6joker9
13 years ago
They left everything they know to try for a better life. Isn't that the attitude we want around here? Give them citizenship and let them pay taxes so they can help support the millions of Americans who don't want to work hard.
z6joker9
13 years ago
If you say you haven't benefited from cheap illegal labor, you have never eaten in a restaurant, had your roof replaced, or purchased vegetables from the grocery store, among plenty of other things.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

If you say you haven't benefited from cheap illegal labor, you have never eaten in a restaurant, had your roof replaced, or purchased vegetables from the grocery store, among plenty of other things.

z6joker9 wrote:




Too broad an assumption. For it to be true you must assume that everyone in the jobs you mentions are illegals.
z6joker9
13 years ago

Too broad an assumption. For it to be true you must assume that everyone in the jobs you mentions are illegals.

HockeyDad wrote:



Negative. It just means at least one person in your supply line is or was, which is exceptionally likely.
z6joker9
13 years ago

We all benefit from cheap labor and goods from China also. How is that working out?

deadeyedick wrote:



Pretty great actually. We get a ton of stuff for far cheaper than we could make it ourselves, and we've completely neutered the single largest political threat to our national security. They are so dependent on us that they cannot do anything that would upset our economy.
rfenst
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13 years ago

Double negative, so that means you're agreeing with Paul's statement. I couldn't resist, Robert. I mean how many times do I get to bust a lawyer's nuts?

dpnewell wrote:



LOL! and, you did it without whining too!
rfenst
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13 years ago

We all benefit from cheap labor and goods from China also. How is that working out?

DED

deadeyedick wrote:



All things being equal, well in the short run. In the long-run, I don't know.

But, since Chinese labor is cheaper and U.S. companies cannot compete as a result, might that theoretically increase demand for U.S. illegal immigrant labor as manufacturers try to reduce their labor costs in an effort to remain competitive?

HockeyDad
13 years ago

Negative. It just means at least one person in your supply line is or was, which is exceptionally likely.

z6joker9 wrote:




Nobody in my supply line was an illegal. I shop and dine at far better places than you do.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — More than 6 in 10 Americans now favor allowing illegal immigrants to eventually become U.S. citizens, a major increase....
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Sixty-two percent of Americans now favor providing a way for illegal immigrants in the U.S. to become citizens, an increase from just 50 percent in the summer of 2010, the last time the AP polled on the question.

In an even earlier poll, in 2009, some 47 percent supported a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
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A majority in the GOP — 53 percent — now favor the change. That's up a striking 22 percentage points from 2010. Seventy-two percent of Democrats and 55 percent of independents like the idea, similar to 2010.
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Thoughts?

rfenst wrote:





It's AGAINST the law.

Why are we allowing the laws to be altered for those that are savaging our nation?
nicholasjames
13 years ago
i dont trust "polls".
dstieger
13 years ago

Nobody in my supply line was an illegal. I shop and dine at far better places than you do.

HockeyDad wrote:



Or, more likely you buy 'European'. Why'd anyone want to go there legally, much less illegally.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Speaking of European, Europe is being overrun by desperate illegals & the Third World.
Spain, a relatively small country that had less than 39 million people and 26% unemployment (over 50% among youth) has over half a million Ecuadorians alone. Germany is inundated with Turks and New Algeria, er France, fuhgetaboutit. Same with tiny (8 million?) Greece which is on the cusp of a barter economy. Greece has been designated the collection processing warehouse for Third World immigrants being processed into the EU.

I guess we're all coming together. Time to embrace even if you have to grin and bear it because the alternative can be far worse.
SweetHavok
13 years ago
For all the benefits that illegals bring into being here in the U.S., there are too many other factors that negate any benefits of letting them stay here. The U.S needs to toughen existing laws and enforce them as they should. Harsher penalties should reduce the number of illegals entering the country.
frankj1
13 years ago

Not everyone has benefited from cheap illegal labor. It is too broad an assumption.

HockeyDad wrote:


I agree. For example, high priced labor has not benefitted from cheap labor.
snowwolf777
13 years ago

I say we all go door to door getting signatures expressing anger over our open borders AND then send a copy to Congress via certified mail!. [ram27bat]

Next, we can move on to outrage over Pearl Harbor and postal rate hikes.



😂 😂 😂

bloody spaniard wrote:




Whoa whoa whoa WHOA!

Stamps aren't 2 cents anymore?

😱
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

They left everything they know to try for a better life. Isn't that the attitude we want around here? Give them citizenship and let them pay taxes so they can help support the millions of Americans who don't want to work hard.

z6joker9 wrote:




I agree. Borders shouldn't exist anymore and we should all have the same standard of living. It's only fair.
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