tailgater
Monday, April 15, 2013 2:51:09 PM
Didn't read the link.

Is this baseball?

Because there may have been real circumstances to make the ump over react like this.

In baseball, if you call the ump a fat lard, you can get ejected.

Maybe the kids were being smart azz and purposely spoke in Spanish to mask what they were saying.

Or maybe the ump is just paranoid.

Either way, who gives a sh*t.

It's just a bunch of 23 year old latinos posing as high school teens anyway...

DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 15, 2013 2:52:30 PM

It's just a bunch of 23 year old latinos posing as high school teens anyway...

tailgater wrote:

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!=d> =d> =d>

Buckwheat
Monday, April 15, 2013 2:59:08 PM
So are baseball "signals" in english?

http://www.baseballfarming.com/baseballsignals.html 

madspackler
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:00:21 PM

What's the official language in the United States of America?

There's your f**king answer.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

FOR THE LESS INFORMED- there is no "official language" in the United States of America. Go ahead and Google it.

The English language is the official language of the United Kingdom and is codified in the Oxford English Dictionary. Reflecting the rights provided in the First Amendment, Congress shall not establish......and we never did establish an official national language, just as we did not establish an official religion.

We speak American English out of habit and custom, nothing more. Until we establish an official language, we have no right to insist that non-natives adopt American English as their language, just that they learn about and appreciate this great country where they are free to speak, worship and work as they please.

As far as the official is concerned - he had no right or justification to insist on English. The Gadsden team as just as much right to insist that he speak Spanish.

And yes...I speak Spanish fluently enough to play soccer, carry on a conversation and order dinner in a Spanish speaking restaurant.

SweetHavok
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:01:27 PM

Ahem...this was a HIGH SCHOOL GAME!!!!!

HELLO!🐴

DrMaddVibe wrote:

:-s

You trying to agree with me? [frypan]

As we both said its a game, one being played by high school students, but a game none the less.

Now let me ask you this do you need to speak the same language as an opponent to play Black Jack, Tic Tac Toe, box against another opponent?

No, Right?

kyman84
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:15:11 PM

Now the question remains should Spanish be allowed in the game at all? No, this is America and we should only allow people to speak American.

Was the umpire out of line? Yes

Now what say you? Only Latin should be allowed to be spoken during a baseball game since the sport is dominated by Latin American players.

Viva la idiocy!!

[ram27bat]

Buckwheat wrote:

First off...The Americas, or America, are lands in the Western Hemisphere that are also known as the New World. Comprising the continents of North America and South America.

Secondly.....Various languages are spoken in the Americas. Some are of European origin, others are spoken by indigenous peoples or are the mixture of various idioms like the different creoles.

The dominant language of Latin America is Spanish, though the largest nation in Latin America, Brazil, speaks Portuguese. Small enclaves of French-, Dutch- and English-speaking regions also exist in Latin America, notably in French Guiana, Suriname, and Belize and Guyana respectively, and Haitian Creole, of French origin, is dominant in the nation of Haiti. Native languages are more prominent in Latin America than in Anglo-America, with Nahuatl, Quechua, Aymara and Guaraní as the most common. Various other native languages are spoken with less frequency across both Anglo-America and Latin America. Creole languages other than Haitian Creole are also spoken in parts of Latin America.

The dominant language of Anglo-America is English. French is also official in Canada, where it is the predominant language in Quebec and an official language in New Brunswick along with English. It is also an important language in the US state of Louisiana, and in parts of New Hampshire, Maine, and Vermont. Spanish has kept an ongoing presence in the Southwestern United States, which formed part of the Viceroyalty of New Spain, especially in California and New Mexico, where a distinct variety of Spanish spoken since the 17th century has survived. It has more recently become widely spoken in other parts of the United States due to heavy immigration from Latin America. High levels of immigration in general have brought great linguistic diversity to Anglo-America, with over 300 languages known to be spoken in the United States alone, but most languages are spoken only in small enclaves and by relatively small immigrant groups.

People speak different languages. let them play the game

DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:20:07 PM

:-s

You trying to agree with me? [frypan]

As we both said its a game, one being played by high school students, but a game none the less.

Now let me ask you this do you need to speak the same language as an opponent to play Black Jack, Tic Tac Toe, box against another opponent?

No, Right?

SweetHavok wrote:

This was a high school game...played on a high school field...why in the world do you think they should have the ability to speak anything other than English?

Really?

So the next time you see a boxing match...do you see a ring announcer speaking Chinese, a judge speaking German, one boxer speaking Engish and the other speaking Italian exclusively? No, you don't. There's a common language.

You asked for others opinions...didn't you?

8trackdisco
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:23:08 PM
The reason we don't have an official language is, if we did, it would be swtiched to Spanish in 15 years.
SweetHavok
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:31:14 PM

This was a high school game...played on a high school field...why in the world do you think they should have the ability to speak anything other than English?

Really?

So the next time you see a boxing match...do you see a ring announcer speaking Chinese, a judge speaking German, one boxer speaking Engish and the other speaking Italian exclusively? No, you don't. There's a common language.

You asked for others opinions...didn't you?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Yes I did, I'm not trying to make you look like an azz or anything like that, so I hope you didn't take it the wrong way. Just mostly trying to follow ones logic. Now like I stated before English should be spoken in the classroom, now on the field it doesn't really matter. A strike is a strike regardless if you speak spanish or not. Doesn't affect the integrity of the game at all.

HockeyDad
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:32:46 PM
Vive le France!
DrafterX
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:45:56 PM
I'm guessing there's a little more to the story..... 🤔
DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:52:23 PM

Yes I did, I'm not trying to make you look like an azz or anything like that, so I hope you didn't take it the wrong way. Just mostly trying to follow ones logic. Now like I stated before English should be spoken in the classroom, now on the field it doesn't really matter. A strike is a strike regardless if you speak spanish or not. Doesn't affect the integrity of the game at all.

SweetHavok wrote:

Not taking it like that at all...I'm just having a hard time trying to follow what you're laying down...logically.

These kids speak English. Some obviously have the ability to speak Spanish too. In the classroom they speak, write and read English. The classroom is on school grounds. The ballpark is on school grounds too. The fans in the stands...the lady selling hotdogs...the guy taking a cash "donation" for the parking lot...they're all speaking the lingo.

The integrity of the game has to be on the same plane.

A strike is a strike and it takes a real talent to throw a 90 MPH fastball and strike out 12-15 guys in a game. The same for hitting. It's just you in the batter's box, oh there might be 8 other guys that wear the same jersey as you but when you're at bat...YOU'RE at bat. Fielding is the same kinda thing, make a mistake and it's called an error. These are the abilities to PLAY the game.

If we allow multi-languages then what does it matter anymore? Lets allow sight hindered umpires that can't see past their nose. Let's allow deaf and blind players as well, why not have a few wheelchair users as well...why not. We're bending the rules for multi-languages and that doesn't matter. Hell, even dig up some cadavers...robots...isn't the game bad enough with juiced players? Sorry, but kids in a US classroom...playing for a school here in the US a team sport on school property...they should be speaking English.

Hey, that's just me apparently.

DrafterX
Monday, April 15, 2013 3:55:32 PM

In the classroom they speak, write and read English. .

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I wouldn't bet on that..... 😟

SweetHavok
Monday, April 15, 2013 4:09:29 PM
DMV

Glad to hear you didn't take any offense. Although don't fully agree with you, I do respect your opinion.

Now, I got to admit a few things here, I purposely withheld a few things here, I took this story myself a little personal because it hit really close to home for a several different reasons. Mostly because Spanish is my first language, and secondly because this school actually happens to be my Alma mater, I graduated from there in 94. Since then I've visited the campus a few times here and there throughout the years but from what I observed not a whole lot has changed since I been there, most students there are bilingual, fluent in both English and Spanish and only a few students only spoke mostly Spanish, those tended to be recent immigrants from Mexico.

wheelrite
Monday, April 15, 2013 6:21:28 PM
What about the Jap that plays for the TX Rangers ?
JadeRose
Monday, April 15, 2013 6:25:33 PM
The US doesn't have an "Official Language". Just saying.......
wheelrite
Monday, April 15, 2013 6:33:21 PM

The US doesn't have an "Official Language". Just saying.......

JadeRose wrote:

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