Drafter swings both ways

[quote=victor809]....

Ok. Since you're not willing to quantify anything at all, which I take to mean you really haven't thought through the entire argument, let me do a little work for you.

I'm not having children.

This means I'm not having the average 2 kids (in the US, mileage may vary in other countries), and they are not having the average 2 kids each, etc etc.

This means that within the span of 50 years, I have already voluntarily removed the generation of waste and consumption of resources of 6 WESTERN people (important to emphasize, as we consume more here than pretty much anywhere).

That's 6 people's worth of gas consumption (lifetime) saved.

That's the clean water consumption of 6 people. Saved.

That's the energy consumption, air conditioning, beef consumption. Saved.

I've already done more for the rest of the people on this planet than 99% of the population, simply by not breeding.

But that's not enough for you? I'm supposed to also say I care? I have a news flash for you... I WON'T BE THERE. Do you care if the fat guy in a room is gonna fart after you've left? no. In fact,if you're particularly devious you may feed him burritos before you leave. (hey drafter, want a burrito?)

I don't know what your obsession with "caring" is. It doesn't actually accomplish anything. [/quote]

Honestly Victor, Ray Charles could see this one with a cane. You’re not having children is because you don’t want to raise the little basterds – not for any altruistic reasons, real or imaginary.

By your crippled excuse for logic a leader who commits genocide is the ultimate steward of the land and abortion providers are near deities.

Your confusion about caring is simple. Unfortunately, you would have to have participated at least once to understand the mechanism. Until then only a mystery will you have . . .

[quote=victor809]Are you calling the british non-human?[/quote]

No, that is HockeyDads' job.

For whatever it's worth, and I don't think it's the cold medicine talking, but I've rather enjoyed the intellectual give and take going on here- most notably between Brew & Victor. I think that the lines separating us are overlapping and/or getting blurred.

Nicely done. =d>

Thanks Bloody,

We only do it because we care. And yes, Victor cares.

About what I have no idea . . .

Victor needs a puppy-dog..... 😟

Bloody needs better glasses

[quote=teedubbya]Bloody needs better glasses[/quote]

Don’t be jealous.

[quote=Brewha]Don’t be jealous. [/quote]

why? because he pulled it more than I did?

[quote=teedubbya]why? because he pulled it more than I did?[/quote]

Uh, no . . . Uh, I . . . didn't even know it was a contest . . .

yea. and I met my match....

he's also good at the how many licks does it take to get to the middle of a tootsie pop game.

Formidable. A cunning licker too . . .

Wow... superficial arguments at best. You do honestly care more about "caring" than actual results, huh? Kinda implies you don't want to actually solve a problem.

[quote=Brewha]Honestly Victor, Ray Charles could see this one with a cane. You’re not having children is because you don’t want to raise the little basterds – not for any altruistic reasons, real or imaginary.[/quote]

So? since when does desire to help matter? If I really enjoy recycling, does that mean that I don't have a positive impact when I do it? Were you raised catholic or something?

If your goal is to help the planet (which I kind of doubt, I suspect you just like saying you care about it), then you shouldn't care whether I do or don't want children. The savings impact should be what is important.

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By your crippled excuse for logic a leader who commits genocide is the ultimate steward of the land and abortion providers are near deities. [/quote]

Um...strictly within the context of the health of the environment, and barring any use of environmentally damaging weaponry, yes. (Well, not abortion providers, since the kid would likely be aborted regardless of each individual's presence). what's your point? a serial killer may be really good with puppies too, doesn't mean he isn't good with puppies.

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Your confusion about caring is simple. Unfortunately, you would have to have participated at least once to understand the mechanism. Until then only a mystery will you have . . .

[/quote]

Yep... keep sniffing your own fart. this is the dumbest of all arguments, and one I've seen you use before. It makes you sound like a hipster... What's the quote "if you can't explain something simply, you don't really understand it" or something like that.

Jesus... arguing with you almost makes me wish potts were around.

My name is Dave, and I'm an alcoholic.

[quote=tegulator]My name is Dave, and I'm an alcoholic.[/quote]

=d>

Victor - Well I am impressed.

I give you the nod; your ability to debate is unexcelled. And I mean that sincerely. From you total ignorance of being lambasted to your innate ability to create more tangents than an exploding bowel; you have the tenacity of a twelve pack drunk – with jock itch.

Thank you for the triple quote recant. I feel strangely honored.

So:

I hereby yield the thread jack topic of “Victors Standard Disclaimer” to the poster from an undisclosed location.

I leave the topic with this thought;

acting to the benefit of those unborn is to provide mercy, and . . . .

The quality of mercy is not strain'd,

It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven

Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:

It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.

'T is mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes

The throned monarch better than his crown;

His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,

The attribute to awe and majesty,

Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;

But mercy is above this sceptred sway,

It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,

It is an attribute to God himself;

And earthly power doth then show likest God's,

When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,

Though justice be thy plea, consider this,

That in the course of justice none of us

Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;

And that same prayer doth teach us all to render

The deeds of mercy.

Feel free to argue with Portia if you like.

Good for you Dave... 👍

what are drinking tonite..?? 😕

I think victor saw Idiocracy and got scared.... 😟

[quote=DrafterX]Good for you Dave... 👍

what are drinking tonite..?? 😕[/quote]

I'm drinking Laphroaig as I smoke a San Lotano Maduro...

I'm drinking Old Plan Wrap - scotch - aged in the bottle, just like me . .

Have a good night boys!