Buckwheat
13 years ago
Original sin? We are all born sinners.
teedubbya
13 years ago
You may be correct on questioning the future but I disagree on the issue of right. As of now they do have the right to do it. That's just a fact.
teedubbya
13 years ago
Misread your post and can't edit. Right vs the right. I don't think it's right but they do have the right.

There are lots of things I find morally wrong or not right that folks have the right to do. There are things I have the right to do that folks find wrong or morally incorrect. It's tough to live in a society where folks have freedom and it's easy to be selective where the line is drawn.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

god gave us two hands, one to pleasure ourself the other

to fast forward or pause the porn we are watching

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




Or the other one to paint the house or clean the joint up once a decade!!!!
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
borndead1

let me think about what you said.

20 weeks is a good compromize.

so it is ok to "murder" a fetus at 14 weeks

but a fetus growing in the womb, bred by an uncle who raped

his 14 year old niece and the fetus will be born without a head

and will die as soon as he is born, must be carried to full term,

unless the little girl reported it to the police, wasn't really raped

and she must carry this headless fetus until it is born to die.

i'll have to think a little more about your compromise
DrafterX
13 years ago
with further stem cell research that little fetus could have a head waiting for it at birth.... 😟
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
dpnewell


i'm sorry i make your head hurt. i assure you it is not intentional.
borndead1
13 years ago

borndead1

let me think about what you said.

20 weeks is a good compromize.

so it is ok to "murder" a fetus at 14 weeks

but a fetus growing in the womb, bred by an uncle who raped

his 14 year old niece and the fetus will be born without a head

and will die as soon as he is born, must be carried to full term,

unless the little girl reported it to the police, wasn't really raped

and she must carry this headless fetus until it is born to die.

i'll have to think a little more about your compromise

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




Rick, the key word is "compromise". As long as people on both sides are unwilling to compromise, there will be no progress on the issue. As long as we live in a representative democracy, abortion will never be 100% legal or 100% illegal anywhere. The only solution is compromise. Yes, 20 weeks is a good compromise.

The hardcore anti-abortionists believe that life begins at conception. While this is technically true, if you want to legislate from that point of view, it would make the morning after pill illegal, in vitro fertilization illegal, stem cell research illegal, and would force rape victims to give birth to their rapists' babies. So the hardcore anti-abortionists need to compromise and move a little toward the center.

The hardcore pro-abortionists believe that a woman should be able to get an abortion at any time, even after the point that the fetus could survive outside the mother's womb. Many of them also believe abortions should be free and that taxpayer money should pay for them. So they need to compromise and move a little toward the center.

And hypothetical scenario arguments are lame.
teedubbya
13 years ago
A compromise is not possible.
wheelrite
13 years ago

borndead1

let me think about what you said.

20 weeks is a good compromize.

so it is ok to "murder" a fetus at 14 weeks

but a fetus growing in the womb, bred by an uncle who raped

his 14 year old niece and the fetus will be born without a head

and will die as soon as he is born, must be carried to full term,

unless the little girl reported it to the police, wasn't really raped

and she must carry this headless fetus until it is born to die.

i'll have to think a little more about your compromise

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




you are a senile commie idiot,,,


The unborn human cares not how it was conceived,,,,

It deserves a life.

It might conjure up a cure for senility,,

wheel,
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
borndead1

if i have a constitutionally gaurantied right to an abortion.,

why should have any need to compromise with anyone
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
wheelrite

somone else used that same word the other day, "commie,."

i haven't heard that word since regean. how old are you?

what's a commie? define it and how it relates to abortion,

the subject at hand.
ZRX1200
13 years ago
Constitutionally guarantied right to abortion????
jackconrad
13 years ago
I think he meant Obama has made an Abortion of our Constitutional Rights..
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
ZRX1200

cigar cuz - do you kow anything about subjects you deal with here.

Supreme Court of the United States
Argued December 13, 1971
Reargued October 11, 1972
Decided January 22, 1973
Full case name Jane Roe, et al. v. Henry
Wade, District Attorney of Dallas County
Citations 410 U.S. 113 (more)
93 S. Ct. 705; 35 L. Ed. 2d 147; 1973 U.S.
LEXIS 159
Prior history Judgment for plaintiffs,
injunction denied, 314 F. Supp. 1217 (N.D.
Tex. 1970); probable jurisdiction noted, 402
U.S. 941 (1971); set for reargument, 408 U.S.
919 (1972)
Subsequent history Rehearing denied, 410
U.S. 959 (1973)
Argument Oral argument
Reargument Reargument
Holding
Texas law making it a crime to assist a
woman to get an abortion violated her due
process rights. U.S. District Court for the
Northern District of Texas affirmed in part,
reversed in part.
Court membership
Chief Justice
Warren E. Burger

Associate Justices
William O. Douglas · William J. Brennan, Jr.
Potter Stewart · Byron White
Thurgood Marshall · Harry Blackmun
Lewis F. Powell, Jr. · William Rehnquist

Case opinions
Majority Blackmun, joined by Burger,
Douglas, Brennan, Stewart, Marshall, Powell
Concurrence Burger
Concurrence Douglas
Concurrence Stewart
Dissent White, joined by Rehnquist
Dissent Rehnquist
Laws applied
U.S. Const. Amend. XIV; Tex. Code Crim.
Proc. arts. 1191–94, 1196

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a
landmark decision by the United States
Supreme Court on the issue of abortion.
Decided simultaneously with a companion
case, Doe v. Bolton, the Court ruled 7–2 that
a right to privacy under the due process
clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a
woman's decision to have an abortion, but
that right must be balanced against the
state's two legitimate interests in regulating
abortions: protecting prenatal life and
protecting women's health. Arguing that
these state interests became stronger over
the course of a pregnancy, the Court
resolved this balancing test by tying state
regulation of abortion to the trimester of
pregnancy.
borndead1
13 years ago

borndead1

if i have a constitutionally gaurantied right to an abortion.,

why should have any need to compromise with anyone

RICKAMAVEN wrote:




Rick, have you actually READ Roe vs. Wade? Try reading it.
Brewha
13 years ago

A compromise is not possible.

teedubbya wrote:


+1

You have to remember that many people approach the issue from a superstitious or religious angle - and there is no reasoning with them. I mean when a kook tells you that condoms are a sin and should be banned, what do you say?

Some folk 'know' they are so right that they just have to tell everyone else how to live. Lets face it, calling abortion murder is just pushing a religious agenda.
jackconrad
13 years ago
Not once you've seen an aborted fetus , Blood, arms, a nose etc...

That's when you know it's not right


Hey i am not gonna tell some one wht to do but i sure am not going to condone or endorse it..

I am a father whose daughter was pregnant before she was married

I strongly thought maybye she should have an abortion

I told her and her boyfriend

You made this kid but it's up to you

They had the baby, got married and are living happily

That grandson is now approaching 16 and is my best buddy

Damn i am glad he wasn't aborted ....

I didn't get my belief from the BIBLE

I got my belief from REAL LIFE.

Knowing the Joy this child has given me

There is no way i will ever compromise my belief
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
jackconrad

"Hey i am not gonna tell some one wht to do

but i sure am not going to condone or endorse it.."


WHAT!!! didn't you tell them not to murder the unborn

fetus. you allowed them the constitutional right granted

under the roe v wade decision.

and what are you doing examining aborted fetuses.

do you do that often?

pesonally i have an aversion to corpses of any age

murdered or died of a disease.


you just blew your entire abortion is murder claim to fame.
jackconrad
13 years ago
Hmm

I don't remember seeing Abortion in the Biil of Rights

However once again you ignore 90 per cent of what i wrote

So you can Blab off your Liberal Diatribe

Well i and most intelligent people are not Buying it

So save your energy for doing Toby's Honeydew list !
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