RICKMAVEN if the prosecution was interested in justice for Trevon they would have charged him with a PROVABLE charges!

This is a disservice to Trevon and Zimmerman and the taxpayers.

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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by trying to start arguments and upset people.[1]. They may do this by posting deliberately inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion


Perhaps I'm wrong, but I doubt it.



Accordingly, humans can be trolls.

I'm curious who Rick will blame this on.

As usual, Rick will ignore all the facts brought forth in the trail, and just scream some outraged nonsense about white racist Republicans and vaginas.

Well in his defense I've never met a black republican vagina.


I know a few wemmins though.

Unfair retort. News reports do support his post. However, none are to the best of my knowledge from major news sources. It seems unlikely that this could have been going on without someone finding out and reporting much sooner. I am not so certain that there is an obligation to include circumstantial evidence in an application for a warrant or at a grand jury proceeding anyway.

If this is true, the defense could move to dismiss the case, but I doubt that will happen if the judge finds a prima facie case has been made. If not, she will dismiss the case.

What about manslaughter?

You are very kind, you sure you're a lawyer? [jester]

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Tomorrow is the big day when the state rests its case!

They have shown video of inconsistent/untruthful statements by Zimmerman. There was lab tech expert witness testimony contradicting Zimmerman as to whether the gun was actually pressed up against Treyvon’s body/sweatshirt when the trigger was pulled; and a whole bunch of confusing DNA evidence of who had blood on what.

The state has also proven that Z learned the "stand your ground" law in police school class, but that he denied knowing it during his surrealistic TV interview last year. And, of course, he was also busted for lying about having allot of hidden money at his bail hearing - but I don't think they can bring that up because he has not been convicted of it and its probative value might not could out way the unfair prejudice....and I just am not sure and must study this (in part because he has not been convicted as of yet- at the very least).

So, the real question is whether the state has impugned Z’s integrity to the extent that he extent that his potentially soon to come testimony will not be believed by the judge and jury. I certainly can see a strategy of not putting him on the stand because so much video reenactment recorded by the police has already been shown

Tomorrow will be the testimony of the medical examiner and T's mother. She will testify that it is T's voice screaming for help. She will be heartily impeached over this, but in a way that doesn’t insult. The real question I guess is how long she will be up on the stand; exactly what she will be allowed to testify to; and how long she will be on the stand evoking irrelevant sympathy and risking “opening the door” to otherwise inadmissible evidence- which would be the defense’s “dream come true”.

Z’s team has had a few glitches, but has done pretty darn well at neutralizing both expert and lay person testimony –if not turning it slightly into Z’s favor. Nevertheless, the likelihood of a judgment of complete acquittal is small, but still there. There will be a greater chance of the judge throwing out 2nd Degree Murder and leaving a manslaughter or lesser inclusive charge- if she does anything. This is of course, is all speculative (mental masturbation) that Trial Attorneys just cannot help but ponder.

Now, depending on the testimony of the last two witnesses, the defense should (IMO) make the very first witness the one who they think will contradict whichever state witness is stronger tomorrow. Thus, the very first defense witness could be T's father, who initially said the screams for help on the tape were not T's. After that, expect the defense to match tit-for-tat the testimony of each eye/ear witness and expert witness to "demonstrate" reasonable doubt. Whether Z should/will testify is the $64k question. I don't think that decision will be made until the last minute. The jury should get this case at the very end of this week to the middle of next week…

Thank you for the summary, Happy Fourth of July!

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Rfenster I think manslaughter was an easier conviction.

Agreed. No brainer distinguishing the HUGE difference in the two.

But, you also have to consider that charging with Second degree inherently includes, as a matter of law, "lesser included offenses". That means every other lesser crime that'' elements have been met.

Per Florida Standard Jury Instructions, lesser included offenses to second degree murder are: Manslaughter, Aggravated Assault, Battery, Assault and Culpable Negligence.

In Casey Anthony, the state stuck solely with murder and did not yield, even in its closing argument. By not arguing the lesser inclusive, they "threw the dice" and made it all or nothing. That isn't why the state lost, but it was very risky at the least.

Wonder whether the state's closing argument will included "in the alternative" oratory...

Anyone else watching live online?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22763220/zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martins-mom-sybrina-fulton-expected-to-testify-friday [/color]

I'm not following it until they walk him up to the gallows or the rioting starts.

He was convicted before the trial started and the only question is will the jury play along.

Probably true, but one never knows. Thus far, I don't think they can get him on 2nd degree murder and could have a difficult time with manslaughter. Let's see if the judge drops one or both today.

Do you think we'll be able to see the smoke from the riots from your backyard? Maybe DMV and I can make it over. We could grill some steaks, smoke some cigars, and watch Predator drone strikes!

How American would that be?!

This has been nothing more than a politically motivated media feeding frenzy show trial since the beginning.

If Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman were both black, both Hispanic, or both white this shooting would not have made it past one or two brief spots on the local evening news.

Real Americans would have done that yesterday. We could have considered it our fire works. But, you two guys and guests owe me a visit. Pool, grill/BBQ, shaded patio with fan. And of course, THE RULE would be enforced- you can only smoke my cigars of your choice (and only my cigars). Had a SP Coronas Gigantes (chuchills) aged 10-12 years. Mild and smooth, but full of great flavor! Hope to see you and everyone else soon!