Florida pastor arrested before he could burn Qurans · Page 2

And while they're at it, having some of those troops guard our own southern border might not be a bad idea. That may be a problem though, as right now the government seems to be more concerned about storing all of its citizens emails, phone calls, and the URL of all the websites they visit.

And oh yeah...and making sure they don't smoke cigars from a certain place. 😣

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bloody spaniard
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#23

Just saw a blood curdling video of Syrian rebels yelling Allahu Akbar as they proudly displayed bodies of children they had just slashed and beheaded.
To me, a bunch of Kurans splashed with kerosene pales in comparison- actually it's NOTHING if not worth mentioning IMHO.
Waste of kerosene if you ask me.

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ZRX1200
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#24

But that's not religious (christian) nuts here in the USA (Florida). So it doesn't assuage rfenster's outrage.

Buckwheat
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12 years ago

#25

How many Americans died so that Jones could speak his viewpoint?

Though I believe people like him are little more than a pimple on the ass of humanity if we aren't gonna persecute the other hate mo here on our soil, why him?

Abrignac wrote:

+1 🌫

HockeyDad
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12 years ago

#26

Just saw a blood curdling video of Syrian rebels yelling Allahu Akbar as they proudly displayed bodies of children they had just slashed and beheaded.

bloody spaniard wrote:

If the USA had supplied them with rifles they wouldn't have had to use knives.

bloody spaniard
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#27

But that's not religious (christian) nuts here in the USA (Florida). So it doesn't assuage rfenster's outrage.

ZRX1200 wrote:

What those muslim animals did probably surpassed any savagery by most WWII Japanese and Nazi monsters.
We are a wacked out civiiization with screwed up priorities to even care about the insignificant potential burning of a questionably holy book by a single Christian preacher while there's ongoing muslim bloodletting being unleashed everywhere. 😣

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rfenst
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12 years ago

#28

bloody spaniard wrote:

Bloody, those are seperate issues in my mind. Good people/Americans worship with the Koran (as do evil people). Same with the Christian Bible and Torah. Who are we todecide wihich prayer books are holly- other than our own. Here is a version of a popular saying:

First they came for the Liberals, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Liberal.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Catholic.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

I am just speaking out on this one-

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#29

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/11/american-soldier-anti-mus_n_3906743.html

😟

bloody spaniard
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#30

True, Robert. But I'm one of those "conspiracy theorists" who believe that the more powerful a Government is, the more likely they will become a thought police & come after those who disagree with them. Having said that, yes, respect for one another is important regardless of whether one worships the one true God or the moon but I thought we lived in a free society where we could burn things such as the flag AND books.
IMHO, we devolve into a Hitlerian/Bolshevik/Muslim society when we arrest a preacher or anyone for PLANNING to burn books & the purported hate crimes due to the book's title.

I think that Western society fears Islam greatly and thus treats it deferentially. This man, like him or not, is not cowed by them.

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HockeyDad
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#31

bloody spaniard wrote:

I can't tell if Rfenst is in favor of the arrest or against it!

Oh and....Bloody.... [email protected]

bloody spaniard
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#32

I can't tell if Rfenst is in favor of the arrest or against it!

Oh and....Bloody.... [email protected]

HockeyDad wrote:

Sick, isn't it? I could be hauled off in the middle of the night some day.

...and I think Rfenst detests the personal intent of the man to burn the "holy" Kurans but will gladly let you die for the man's right to express it.

DrafterX
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#33

Does Obama have jack-booted thugs..?? 😕

HockeyDad
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#34

Does Obama have jack-booted thugs..?? 😕

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[email protected]

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#35

damn.... 😞

DrafterX
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#36

what's the difference between a Quran and a Koran anyway..??? 🤔

ZRX1200
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#37

The ammount of lighter fluid needed.

wheelrite
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#38

Does Obama have jack-booted thugs..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

her name is Michelle...

wheel,

DadZilla3
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12 years ago

#39

what's the difference between a Quran and a Koran anyway..??? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:

About 20 Dinars.

rfenst
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12 years ago

#40

Having said that, yes, respect for one another is important regardless of whether one worships the one true God or the moon but I thought we lived in a free society where we could burn things such as the flag AND books.

bloody spaniard wrote:

Bingo!

We do live in such a society and the cost of Freedom of speech is having to put up with a message we don't like in return for that freedom we cheerish. This guy had the right to demonstrate on 9/11- free of government interference subject to time and place restrictions (as long as certain other simple rules and laws were followed). Although I do not like him; his message(s); and what and where he wanted to do it yet again this time, I do fiercely believe in his rights/our rights. It is simply the particular dichotomy of content vs. message that bothers/tests me here.

But, there and here is a unique third component to all of this that we rarely see. Those weren't weren't just books. They were religious books. SACRED PRAYER BOOKS! This brings the First Amendment into play in an additional/different way other than just Free Speech. In this instance, Free Speech/freedom of speech v. Free Religion/Freedom of Religion are involved which makes the entire matter far more irritating, disgusting and complex for me.

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