He laid that golden fiddle on the ground at JPotts feet, because he knew that he'd been beat.

ZRX1200 wrote:

Well, first of all, Federal workers are not self employed, so this is apples & oranges. Second, sounds like jpotts needs a group hug.

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fiddler898 wrote:

Jpotts et al, it's not that some federal employees and contractors are furloughed, it's that they (since my contract is still paying I THINK-working at risk....) don't know when they are going back to work. I don't get compensated for the risk you take as a small business owner, so I won't reap any rewards-just a paycheck for my labor. If you, a big company or the federal government needs my labor, then pay me for it. If not, lay me off/fire me so I can either get another job or start my own business.

My furloughed or "shutdown" friends can't get other jobs-would you hire someone who might be able to re-join their career Monday? Oh, and some miss the cut-off for unemployment benefits by a few hundred dollars as retired E-6s after 20 years in the military.

And don't think I don't know this is about to bankrupt a whole bunch of small-businesses that had government contracts set aside "to benefit them." Got friends making payroll off credit cards routinely when DoD challenges invoices.

Don't bogart the popcorn, azzhats.

Bur wrote:

I was talking to one if the officers at Ft. Leavenworth who works with a mix of military and civilian employees. The civilians are not getting paid but are expected to report. According to him if they are one minute late they will be fired. They just fired a fifteen year employee for being 5 minutes late.

Sounds odd to me and I'm glad my shop isn't like that. But that's what he said (bs or not). He didn't seam to be joking.

teedubbya wrote:

Hockey dad, you're wrong. The agency I work for has seen 3 people leave from my location alone.
You can't compare being a federal employee to being an employee of a startup company. I've been with the government for nearly 10 years and have nothing to do with passing the budget. Why does my family need to go without a paycheck for who knows how long simply because a handful of idiots can't get their $hit together & share the sandbox? I doubt that any of the employees at any private company would tolerate being told "I'll pay you when I can, I don't know how long it'll be. But no, you can go find another job until then. If you don't show up tomorrow, you're fired."
Despite what many people want to believe, the VAST majority of federal employees are not independently wealthy and live paycheck to paycheck. In fact, quite a few of us don't make much at all (entry level with my agency is around $30k, prorated to part time status working less than 50% so about $15k). Missing even 1 paycheck is going to have a very real impact on us very quickly. Since we're "essential", we have to report or face termination, so its not like we can go find another job until the budget/cr is passed.

JB113 wrote:

As for the op, I'm not taking the bait. I'm not sure even Potts believes what he types at times. I just think he wants a reaction.

I long ago forgave Potts absurdity by considering his situation. He is surrounded by by far more lib whackos than any of the rest of us and prolly the only defense is go full on crazy in the other direction. I would too. There are no adults in his area. It's like a political children of the corn.

teedubbya wrote: