cacman
12 years ago

Lets not forget Dumbass Quayle did more than just misspell a word on a chalkboard, that a student had spelled correctly. This moron wrecked the economy as vice president. And never won the race.

President Obama on the other hand won the race twice and has made the stock market grow consistently for five years, to its highest it has ever been. We have never lived in more prosperous times. Because other times when it has rallied, it has lasted 4 years maximum. This president has doubled my portfolio and 401k, and I did not vote for him.

Thank You Obama, history will also thank you.

scompay wrote:


So basically what you're saying is that the "O" administration and Dems have "bought" your vote and approval. Did you get a free iPhone, cell & internet service too?

The market would have grown regardless of the "O" being in office. He's done nothing to directly impact the stock market or create jobs.

Your portfolio may have doubled, but let's not forget the values dropped to half of what they where first! So basically you are no further ahead than if the market held a steady pace instead of crashing.

But keep drinking that kool-aid.
scompay
12 years ago

Wait a minute.....vice president Quayle wrecked the economy? Did he attend the wrong funerals or something?!


The problem with using the stock market growth as a prosperity indicator is only around half the country even own stocks directly or through some 401K or pension. (It must suck to be them right now!) Where Obama has definitely affected the market is he maintained and even increased the corporate welfare and graft. I always chuckled when he promised to cut corporate welfare.

HockeyDad wrote:




The only indicator we need is what the alternative did. Yep destroyed capital and even trust in it. (I voted for that moron)

Dan Quayle was the one to shout the emperor has no clothes by revealing that he could not spell potato.
scompay
12 years ago


Your portfolio may have doubled, but let's not forget the values dropped to half of what they where first! So basically you are no further ahead than if the market held a steady pace instead of crashing.

But keep drinking that kool-aid.

cacman wrote:



You should read what you wrote. You are right.

Bush cut those values in half. Unfortunately many got out at that time, believing that no way would Obama turn it around.

We dont elect someone to half our net worth.
DrafterX
12 years ago
so, what happens when da Federal Reserve stops buying $45 billion of U.S. government bonds every month..?? 🤔
cacman
12 years ago

so, what happens when da Federal Reserve stops buying $45 billion of U.S. government bonds every month..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:


LMAO!!!
scompay
12 years ago

so, what happens when da Federal Reserve stops buying $45 billion of U.S. government bonds every month..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:



So now you are saying he did do something to get us here.

cacman
12 years ago

so, what happens when da Federal Reserve stops buying $45 billion of U.S. government bonds every month..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:


A Federal-Reserve bubble that will burst as soon as funds are cut-off… but under the next administration so again it can't be blamed on the "O".
8trackdisco
12 years ago

A Federal-Reserve bubble that will burst as soon as funds are cut-off… but under the next administration so again it can't be blamed on the "O".

cacman wrote:



Very similar to the accerlation into an extra war and a chitload of debt that W put on the tab, and watched it crash down on O.

And it will continue to spin forever.
scompay
12 years ago

A Federal-Reserve bubble that will burst as soon as funds are cut-off… but under the next administration so again it can't be blamed on the "O".

cacman wrote:



If that was remotely correct, the republicans would not bother running for the next election. They would just wait till it went to hell in a handbasket and win the election by a landslide. They would never send their best man in when the economy has crashed. Thats why they sent the now forgotten Palin and McCain, once the economy got good they sent in Romney.


The market has now learned a valuable lesson, when a republican is in office, your net worth will be halved.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
Note to self, add scompay to list of folks (mostly Victor and Abrinac) to never politically debate unless packing a derringer and 30mg's of zantac.=p~
tailgater
12 years ago
The Dan Quayle Potato/Potatoe debacle is one of the best indicators to determine how feeble a persons mind is and how easily they are swayed by the media.

The real life examples provide a wealth of data that is damn near irrefutable.

bloody spaniard
12 years ago

Note to self, add scompay to list of folks (mostly Victor and Abrinac) to never politically debate unless packing a derringer and 30mg's of zantac.=p~

bloody spaniard wrote:



The Dan Quayle Potato/Potatoe debacle is one of the best indicators to determine how feeble a persons mind is and how easily they are swayed by the media.
The real life examples provide a wealth of data that is damn near irrefutable.

tailgater wrote:


:-k 😟

Quickly adding Tailgater's name.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
Btw, as one of the founding members of Friends of Dan Quayle (and his Olive Oyl looking wife), I fully understood your post & the unfair characterization.
He was actually bright. There was just something about the camera that seemed to freeze his brain.
scompay
12 years ago

Btw, as one of the founding members of Friends of Dan Quayle (and his Olive Oyl looking wife), I fully understood your post & the unfair characterization.
He was actually bright. There was just something about the camera that seemed to freeze his brain.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Sorry brother for not knowing DQ for any of his successes as you do. By that same scale, how could you blame me for citing a 2 term winning president who has had such public successes as thriving stock market.

Thanks to media, the right has been so galvanized that even if a good leftie was to come on the scene, he would be tarred. Ironically do you know what the result of that will be, that right itself can become the liberal without opposition because folks are so comfortably galvanized. Look at their picks, immigrants passing themselves as pilgrims of the constitution. Do you actually believe that.
scompay
12 years ago
Look prophet Eddie already predicted this spelling problem decades ago. See for yourself.
tailgater
12 years ago

:-k 😟

Quickly adding Tailgater's name.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Take a deep breath.
Now hold it.

:-&
bloody spaniard
12 years ago
^ Oh, no, you're not getting me to pass out again.

Sorry brother for not knowing DQ for any of his successes as you do. By that same scale, how could you blame me for citing a 2 term winning president who has had such public successes as thriving stock market.

Thanks to media, the right has been so galvanized that even if a good leftie was to come on the scene, he would be tarred. Ironically do you know what the result of that will be, that right itself can become the liberal without opposition because folks are so comfortably galvanized. Look at their picks, immigrants passing themselves as pilgrims of the constitution. Do you actually believe that.

scompay wrote:


Wait a minute, scompay, I said Quayle was bright but he wasn't all THAT either. LOL !! Just common sense smart for a politician and a very nice, sincere, family man.

True, most will galvanize especially after Obama's piss poor job but that's to be expected. Yep, the stock market has thrived under his reign but do you know anyone personally who's aggressively investing big bucks or pb&j money for that matter, these days? I don't. Perhaps some hedge fund folks... I think there's a lot of manipulation going on. Besides, wars have a way of stimulating sectors. Speaking of which, the military industrial complex has also thrived along with the underground illegal network and the swirl of government bennies surrounding it along with special interest contractors.

I think that a day of reckoning is coming for this incompetent President and his staff. Will it be set off by rising interest rates, higher unemployment, an unsustainable debt, more illegals...? I don't know.

I've never seen a worse economy for the small business owner. Never.
scompay
12 years ago

^ Oh, no, you're not getting me to pass out again.


Wait a minute, scompay, I said Quayle was bright but he wasn't all THAT either. LOL !! Just common sense smart for a politician and a very nice, sincere, family man.

True, most will galvanize especially after Obama's piss poor job but that's to be expected. Yep, the stock market has thrived under his reign but do you know anyone personally who's aggressively investing big bucks or pb&j money for that matter, these days? I don't. Perhaps some hedge fund folks... I think there's a lot of manipulation going on. Besides, wars have a way of stimulating sectors. Speaking of which, the military industrial complex has also thrived along with the underground illegal network and the swirl of government bennies surrounding it along with special interest contractors.

I think that a day of reckoning is coming for this incompetent President and his staff. Will it be set off by rising interest rates, higher unemployment, an unsustainable debt, more illegals...? I don't know.

I've never seen a worse economy for the small business owner. Never.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Hang on, you said lets both take a Quaalude and meet in the middle, did you keep your bargain.

Look how unreasonable we have become, its not ok to make fun of a one term vp that misspelled potato at a school, on a blackboard no less. And he presided over one of the biggest economic blunders- interest, inflation and unemployment was through the roof. It is somehow perfectly fine to make fun of a two-term Black President, who slips on a word, under his leadership, interest, inflation, and unemployment are nearly half that under Bush/Quayle.

Yeah yeah its all going to crash and there is doom impending- but that dog aint huntin nomore. Wall Street and main street have now figured it out after observing for 3 decades, the only time it all comes crashing down is when we put an ideologist in charge. They proved it by taking a black guy from cheecago, with no business experience and he has delivered everything the republicans promised, we have only had peacetime economic numbers this good once before and our auto industry is stronger than ever.
bloody spaniard
12 years ago

Hang on, you said lets both take a Quaalude and meet in the middle, did you keep your bargain.

Look how unreasonable we have become, its not ok to make fun of a one term vp that misspelled potato at a school, on a blackboard no less. And he presided over one of the biggest economic blunders- interest, inflation and unemployment was through the roof. It is somehow perfectly fine to make fun of a two-term Black President, who slips on a word, under his leadership, interest, inflation, and unemployment are nearly half that under Bush/Quayle.

Yeah yeah its all going to crash and there is doom impending- but that dog aint huntin nomore. Wall Street and main street have now figured it out after observing for 3 decades, the only time it all comes crashing down is when we put an ideologist in charge. They proved it by taking a black guy from cheecago, with no business experience and he has delivered everything the republicans promised, we have only had peacetime economic numbers this good once before and our auto industry is stronger than ever.

scompay wrote:


Antacid not quaalude. If it were a quaalude I would not care what anyone said. LOL

I don't remember the misery index under Bush Sr/Quayle being particularly bad. In fact, it can be argued that their policies gave Clinton an economic bump from the start.

I hope you're right, scompay. I've just seen everything in an ever- increasing, slow tailspin since 2001. Perhaps it IS a matter of perception but damn, when almost everyone in the production chain sees the same... ehhh, perhaps expectations eventually become reality. All I know is that the old bromide that I used to discount- the rich are getting richer while the poor get poorer- is beginning to ring true.
scompay
12 years ago

Antacid not quaalude. If it were a quaalude I would care what anyone said. LOL

I don't remember the misery index under Bush Sr/Quayle being particularly bad. In fact, it can be argued that their policies gave Clinton an economic bump from the start.

I hope you're right, scompay. I've just seen everything in an ever- increasing, slow tailspin since 2001. Perhaps it IS a matter of perception but damn, when almost everyone in the production chain sees the same... ehhh, perhaps expectations eventually become reality. All I know is that the old bromide that I used to discount- the rich are getting richer while the poor get poorer- is beginning to ring true.

bloody spaniard wrote:



Bloody, you were probably already established by that era, thanks to Ronnie. I was just buying a house and a car, I painfully remember what the misery index was, and taxes. There is a reason 1200sqft homes were considered mansions. Today I think they start construction at 4,000 sqft.

Yes unlike historians I will agree that Papa Bush did a lot of good for the long term economy.
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