cacman
Thursday, June 4, 2015 1:44:33 AM
Asked a BOTL tonight who is closely associated with a group sponsored by DE and recently went on a DE Safari. It was explained to me that JDN is one of the oldest tobacco farms/family in the region - over 45+ years. Their original building is one of the oldest in the area. Originally JDN offered the Cabinetta (mild) and another that I can't remember the name of (strong). JD didn't help with the distribution per-say or the blending, but more with the marketing. As happens in the cigar industry, close relations where formed, but JDN is not part of Drew Estates as I understood it.

Regarding MUWAT - thought that was Subculture Studios, or a 'subdivision' of DE and a collaboration between Drew Estate and JDN. Kind of like L'Atelier is a subdivison of Tatuaje done in collaboration with Dan Welsh and produced by My Father. Don't know or think MUWAT or HE is effected by the Swisher deal.

kombat96
Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:22:09 AM

Most confusing thing I've seen since the Wombats sex change operation. Somehow he became a he. Nobody right figured that one out from the gets but we all presume it is something unsevered from birth. It turns out the littler nubby was actually a potrusion from the outty button of the belly. What a great waste of human flesh it was (the whole of the bloke not just the misplaced foreskin I presume).

Should I lol at this turn of events or just shutter in agony and pray a man a grand recovery as he joins the list of the brave Americans that overshadow our troops with the valor and dignity intact as they hit a midlife crisis and assume the surgical position rather than buying a new sports car and lying near incestually with a young rosy sweet breathed broad in an awkward attempt at remaking a scene from American Beauty.

Puffnstuff79 wrote:

WTF? Dude you are seriously mentally ill. Take your meads before your on the news for a homicide suicide.

sd72
Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:45:10 AM
I think he's a misunderstood genius. Like Ed Gein sorta
tonygraz
Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:45:50 AM
Sounded believable to me.
Puffnstuff79
Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:18:36 AM

WTF? Dude you are seriously mentally ill. Take your meads before your on the news for a homicide suicide.

kombat96 wrote:

You're not saying you'll be doing me in and then you are you? I do have an obligation Jon

JKilburn
Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:47:54 AM

Asked a BOTL tonight who is closely associated with a group sponsored by DE and recently went on a DE Safari. It was explained to me that JDN is one of the oldest tobacco farms/family in the region - over 45+ years. Their original building is one of the oldest in the area. Originally JDN offered the Cabinetta (mild) and another that I can't remember the name of (strong). JD didn't help with the distribution per-say or the blending, but more with the marketing. As happens in the cigar industry, close relations where formed, but JDN is not part of Drew Estates as I understood it.

Regarding MUWAT - thought that was Subculture Studios, or a 'subdivision' of DE and a collaboration between Drew Estate and JDN. Kind of like L'Atelier is a subdivison of Tatuaje done in collaboration with Dan Welsh and produced by My Father. Don't know or think MUWAT or HE is effected by the Swisher deal.

cacman wrote:

Was it Taps (Aiden)?? [sarcasm] [sarcasm]

cacman
Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:55:57 AM

Was it Taps (Aiden)?? [sarcasm] [sarcasm]

JKilburn wrote:

LMAO. Was ejected from his 'outlaw' cigar group for complaining about the Mods setting the prices on what you could sell your cigars for. One of the Mods felt I attacked him because I wouldn't agree with him setting prices on mine and others cigars. One Mod actually posted a video explaining how this 'policy' helped the group.

elRopo
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Thursday, June 4, 2015 2:00:48 PM
Wow! I had no idea there was so much intrigue in the cigar biz now-a-days. Must be Ubamma's fault somehow or other. Seriously though, I do believe that government regulation must driving some of the smaller manufacturers into the arms of the conglomerates.
sd72
Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:51:43 PM
Was it drew estates fault that puff performed a sex change on wombat from he to he though? The question begs an answer.
Puffnstuff79
Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:03:02 PM
The end result was much like an undercrown flying pig. All the way to the curlies. This just got weird.
dkeage
Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:09:52 PM
JD blew off having the after party last year at RMCF. F him and his overpriced stuff....
sd72
Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:03:42 PM
He prolly had to head to chair a meeting for one of his community charity's.
fenderbendertex
Friday, June 5, 2015 6:48:35 AM
As long as Swisher doesn't mess up Antanos, baitfish, or any of the good DE's or JdN's like Dan and Mikey hit me with, we're good.

And at least we don't have to call Wombat Caitlyn... (This thread is funny but a little weird even for here, Puffy)

Thunder.Gerbil
Friday, June 5, 2015 8:25:09 AM

TG and others can enlighten far better than I....however, in my mind, it was simply DE acting as a distribution vehicle for JdN - and little else. I'm not aware of any collaboration on blending, creation, production, etc. So....assuming that was true, I ignored the partnership entirely, believing it meant nothing to me, the consumer.

dstieger wrote:

To the best of my recollection, you are correct, Dave. It was mainly just a distribution and marketing thing. Jonathan and Nicholas did work with JdN on helping JdN to improve their rolling technique but that was more of a training thing. Swisher has no stake in JdN. Cuenca is 100% owner of JdN.

IIRC, MUWAT was a cigar where some of the tobacco came from DE. I think by now that JdN would be in a position to source those tobaccos themselves if the Swisher buy out were to impact that supply.

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