no hindsight involved. you can go back and read what was written back and forth in real time. There is no need to recreate or characterize it when it's out there.

And following 911 questioning Bush was considered unpatriotic by many, which was used by the administration.

I'm not sure about your kennedy, Reagan etc. comment. I still consider myself a republican. My only point was I voted for bush, figured out there was no meat on the bone when I expected powell to provide real evidence to the UN and said oh **** we got nothing. At that point I was frequently accused of not being a republican because I was outspoken against the person I voted for. I never really knew the reason Bush wanted to attack Iraq so bad, still don't, so I don't make that claim.

meh believe it or not.... it really doesn't matter. I was just comparing Uncle Teds comments to the Dixie chicks and find it interesting how unacceptable theirs was by everyone (patriotic fever) vs ted's only upsetting mealy mouthed liberals. Different times, different reactions. The patriotic fever we were in was leveraged well by the administration.

#-o

Who was Ted's audience?
Is Ted a top star, or a political caricature of himself?

The Dixie Chicks used the foreign audience's distaste of GWB to gain applause. It was reprehensible and low class. Poor form considering the times.

But Nugent went for the jugular and his comments are more a testament to his political leanings than they are to his current music popularity.
Face it, most artists are liberal. Uncle Ted is in stark contrast.

TG in my neck of the woods I'll show you 50 disgruntled Conervatives to 1 Kennedy Democrat.

All of this is for show and more than a little whining over not being in power - and it happens no matter who is in office.

Although on the Obama/Wall Street thing - I think we have set a few stock market records in the last few years. Not getting much credit there, as you pointed out. Whether he deserves it or not, l'll leave to others to decide.

Reagan Conservatives and Kennedy Democrats are interchangeable.
Everyone is proud to be one because the class doesn't exist any longer.

Kennedy was probably more conservative than most of today's GOP.

But none of that matters in an election year. Because we'll see the WORST of both parties before the winner from each steps forward and tries to shake off their partisan cloak.

^there's no doubt about that!^

Wow ... A lot has sure changed in the 10+ years since The Dixie Chicks were around.

Now, just mentioning the fact you're patriotic is enough to get your name on a number of anti-government watch lists & audited by the IRS.

And, no record label would sign them using the word Dixie.

I wish I was politically correct in Dixie

by Lewis Grizzard

I certainly agree with all those who have protested the playing of "Dixie" at Southern football games. Although slavery isn't mentioned in the song, it still makes people think of the Old South, where every white person owned African Slaves.

"Dixie" is definitely a politically incorrect piece of music. Even the word is offensive to some, and I apologize to those who are offended by my use
of it.

But I'm proud to say my alma mater, the University of Georgia, years ago rid itself of any connection with the song or there word you-know-what (see, I didn't use the word this time, as I despise offending people).

The Georgia band used to play the song at football games. But not anymore. The only place they still play the song is at the University of Mississippi. They also wave Confederate flags and they allow prayer before a football game.

I'm not certain how long it will be before members of the Speech Police move in and shut down such reprehensible behavior, but it could be any day now.

Georgia not only stopped playing the song, it even changed the name of the band, formerly knows at the Dixie Redcoat Band.
It became simply the Redcoat Band.

That prompted my stepbrother, Ludlow Porch, the famous radio talk show personality, to fire off a letter to the editor suggesting the following: "I applaud the dropping of 'Dixie' from the name of the University of Georgia band, but let us not stop there.

"How can we allow the word 'red,' which stands for communism? And the word 'redcoat' itself is an affront to the memory of all those Americans who fought against the redcoats of England in the Revolutionary War.

"And 'band.' Poncho Villa had a 'band' of desperadoes and we had to send brave young soldiers into Mexico after him. So 'band' should go, too, and that just leaves 'The,' which is a dumb name for a large number of musicians, so I guess they're just out of a name altogether."

I believe if we really try we can wipe away all symbols of the Old South forever. There's a company in Savannah that makes Dixie Crystal Sugar. Sorry, it's just Crystal Sugar from now on, and don't give me any grief about it.

And there's even a Dixie Highway in the South. It should be referred to from now on only as Highway. As in, "Well, you take Highway, then go down three blocks and…" There are even some people named Dixie, believe it or not. They will have to go by their middle names. And if anybody named Dixie lives on Dixie Highway, the Speech Police will likely demand they be shot.

And if the song and word "Dixie" are symbolic of the Old South, I guess we ought to stop using "Old South" as well. Instead of saying "Old South", perhaps we can refer to it as "Back Then," and we can roll our eyes when we use it so everybody will know we aren't talking about when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, but when slaveholders used to go around singing songs like "Dixie" and "Eating Goober Peas."

But wait. "Eating Goober Peas" is a song from Back Then, too, so don't anybody dare play that at a football game.


Rap songs about killing innocent people, incidentally, are just fine.

Reagan proudly identified as a Kennedy Democrat before his registering with the GOP...back when things got done.

edit: meaning that it was possible to side with the other side issue by issue. Today, it's political suicide. Party over country is the current mantra.

Interesting that I mentioned cure for cancer in much the same way you did in a recent thread, but I referenced Obama!
No wonder we get along.

I knew a girl named Dixie, my ex-brother in law had the hots for her.

didn't read every post, hope I'm not repeating but doesn't dixie, as a verb, also mean to get rid of or to quit something, to dispose of?

Was her last name Normous?

wait. Aren't you Dixie Normous?

I don't go by that name here on the advice of Drafter.

He's kind of the forum sage, you know...

No, but she was a bit too big for me to like.

Yeah. Poor form to date a chick with a bigger ****** than you...

Is that the voice of experience ?

I know you are, but what am I?

Frightfully sharp banter and repartee….

Whatcha expect from the Brady bunch.