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Bloom’s taxonomy? Really? Is that all you got?

You once again discount what someone has to say because he doesn’t have the academic “pedigree” you think he should to be considered credible. An observation on my part is that your response (which is typical of all your posts) to me avoided any answering of a direct question—do you think the Iranian nuclear deal is a good deal? Instead of really focusing on the issues, you like to lob little intellectual barbs to prove you have some education. What does that add to the conversation? I think what is lacking here on your part is known as common sense. Talking just to talk seems to be your mode of operation.

Carry on.

Burner02 wrote:

Vic, you never answered the question in #'s 22 & 38.

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victor809
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#43

My opinion on the deal is irrelevant to the video's quality or veracity. You only ask me to distract attention.

You posted a steaming pile of crap, defend it. After that we can have an actual discussion over the deal.

Burner02
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

11 years ago

#44

victor809 wrote:

You answered the question by not answering the question a third time.

Translation, you are for the deal.

That explains your aggressive belittling of the video because it does not support your views. Not surprising!

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#45

...or because the video is a steaming pile of crap. You still haven't pointed out a single way in which it argues the deal is bad.

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#46

Are you so messed up in the head that you think a person has to agree with every crappy, poorly constructed argument on a topic, or they must be against that topic?

banderl
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#47

Prager Schwagers?

banderl wrote:

tonygraz
Herf-A-Holic

11 years ago

#48

The deal is bad for the military-industrial complex and the hawks they own in congress. They were against the deal before it was a deal because they want another war. In fifteen years things may change in Iran and we might even become friends.

tonygraz
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11 years ago

#49

What I really wonder about is why Burner doesn't like pizza. Hard to trust anybody that doesn't want to talk about pizza.

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Speyside
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#50

Seems to be a pretty standard inspection agreement. I do not know if these have worked or not historically.

QMPASH
Aficionado

10 years ago

#51

Let's see: Iran is supporting terrorists all over the world. Iran is holding 4 Americans and nothing was said about them in the negotiations. The day after the "deal" as announced, people were parading in Tehran shouting "death to America." The mullahs and the Iran government have called for the destruction of Israel not once, but many times. The deal allows the Iran government to monitor their own facilities. It is good only for 15 years. The deal only covers known nuclear facilities and does not even mention possible hidden facilities we know nothing about. Nobody even asked the negotiators for Iran how they interpreted the language of the agreement. By comparison, Chamberlain's agreement with Hitler at Munich was a vast improvement. Yeah, we can trust Iran as much as we can trust Hillary.

frankj1
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10 years ago

#52

QMPASH wrote:

can I have your copy when you are done reading it?

banderl
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#53

The Prager ragers ?

tonygraz wrote:

Poor Tony!

banderl
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#54

can I have your copy when you are done reading it?

frankj1 wrote:

Frank, would you pass it on to me when you're done?

TIA

frankj1
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10 years ago

#55

Frank, would you pass it on to me when you're done?

TIA

banderl wrote:

sure. if you don't mind, I'll yellow hilite the parts that have Iran's leaders so pizzed.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#56

I head an agreement didn't work once so none will ever work again and stuff

Burner02
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

10 years ago

#57

sure. if you don't mind, I'll yellow hilite the parts that have Iran's leaders so pizzed.

frankj1 wrote:

Are there pictures?

That may help.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

10 years ago

#58

Are there pictures?

That may help.

Burner02 wrote:

I know you know I'm playing around.

It's some pretty serious stuff and I am amazed to be reading specifics.

But if we hate it and Iran hates it, maybe it has a chance? I'm only half kidding now.

tailgater
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10 years ago

#59

I'm only half kidding now.

frankj1 wrote:

I thought you were being witty.
Turns out I was only half right.

🇨🇮

QMPASH
Aficionado

10 years ago

#60

I asked burner to argue the deal is bad based on facts in the video. And you think a response to that is to say: "Iran hates america and hitler hated the Jews". Really?

As for your argument that we're allowing iran to monitor it's own facilities... first, that's not true, second, it isn't in the video so it's not an argument in the video showing the strength or weakness of the deal.

victor809 wrote:

Unfortunately, it is in the agreement. True, the Europeans can also monitor KNOWN sites with 24 days notice. That would give the Iranians 24 days to remove any suspicuious equipment or products before the inspection. Keep in mind that the Europeans are intent on doing lucrative deals with Iran so how deeply do you think they would dig if they found anything suspicious? Despite who "inspects" the deal lapses in 15 years. Even the most brain-dead, far-left liberal would see that this virtually guarantees that Iran gets the bomb. Saudi Arabia and other countries in the Middle East are hardly likely to allow this to happen, so they will build their own nuclear capability and the delivery systems for them. Voila, a Middle East nuclear arms race, the consequences of which, can only be guessed at. It is NOT a question of whether Iran is evil or not. It's a case of keeping an erratic regime that supports terrorism from getting the bomb. It's a question of whether we are going to support our allies in the region (Israel, Saudia Arabia and Jordan just to mention three) or whether we are going to support an agreement which offers us nothing and gives away the store to Iran. And I never said Iran hates America; the Iranians said that. And, try as you might, you will never see any statement in my post about Hitler (save for the Munich Agreement) or the Jews. Don't try and twist my observations in order to substantiate your ridiculous statements.

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