wasn't the question. the answers should be about the GOP, probably shouldn't even have to mention Obama. Not a Obama thread.

Besides, I already gave you best post I ever saw tonight.

frankj1 wrote:

wasn't challenging anyone to knock the current administration, nor to think I am propping it up. Quite the opposite, looking for someone, anyone here to post a State of the Union address about the GOP and a squandered decade spent crying.

My vote is available, sell me.

frankj1 wrote:

honestly I dunno... I'm still waiting for someone to sell me also.. I know I don't want a Hillary or Biden or the other guy running as a socialist... I dunno man.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

wasn't challenging anyone to knock the current administration, nor to think I am propping it up. Quite the opposite, looking for someone, anyone here to post a State of the Union address about the GOP and a squandered decade spent crying.

My vote is available, sell me.

frankj1 wrote:

That's just the problem, Frank. No one has anything. Just about all any party has now is to point out the flaws of the other, and I'm not talking solely about all of the mensa trustees here. The parties as whole have become nothing but deflection and blame. Accomplishments are far and few between, no one has anything to offer but dirt and broken promises. Meanwhile, this country goes down the toilet and they are left clinging to the rim, no mater how many times you flush. I guess it had to happen sometime.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

No argument from me, your observation about the GOP is correct. Every time they get in power they appear to step on their ******, but I see it as a collusion with the democrats, they do the same thing to their believers. I have no love whatever for either party and especially none for those in the parliament of whores, Congress.

Gene363 wrote:

OK, so at least we know they have long enough deeks that they can be stepped on! Clearly they are more manly, and I mean that as a joke and comment on their marketing.

Interesting comment about collusion with the Democrats, Gene. I postulated recently that Trump was actually a secret double agent for the Dems...there may truly be truth in jest.

No attack, believe what you want, but a lot of folks here talk about not liking either party, but savage the Liberals exclusively. Just a wee bit disingenuous in the name of being "open minded".

As much as there has been to complain about Obama (I know people think I am but I am not a devotee), I have not been compelled yet to abandon course and change to a helter skelter direction navigated by the GOP. No matter who gets credit, business is booming, housing is booming, people willing to work can if they try, stocks are scary but even with big dips are way ahead of several years ago, the world is scary but ya got to admit there's far less war involving us currently...all while the GOP tried to make Dems unelectable as their solitary contribution to a better world. But open eyes can see improvements in the American Condition, unbelievable as it may be!

They may have assured 4 or 8 more years of whatever we have now. So far, I am less scared of that road as I head into retirement in a few short years. And my kids futures all look better than when President Cheney left office.

GOP, you have to beat that, and I am willing to listen, but stop with the Trump noise already. He doesn't really want all that responsibility, he's just using you. He won't use me.

frankj1 wrote:

I think you can be a hater or lover of either party and still argue about politics. Many of the lefty attacks are insulting too, but issues like abortion, religion, voting, candidate citizenship, school records, the war of women/Christmas etc. are just issues to whip up the base and keep them busy. Meanwhile, criminals lobbyists write laws and the members of the parliament of whores pass them.

The best you can do is plant yourself and your assets where they are impacted the least by the government.The politicians want you scared to death and the media profits from keeping you scared. Fortunately we are living inside of a juggernaut called the USA, unfortunately, we are not allowed anywhere near the steering wheel.

On the bright side, we are being invaded by Mexicans, Central Americans and South Americans, as opposed to Europe whos is currently being invaded by islamic hordes.

Gene363 wrote:

OK, so at least we know they have long enough deeks that they can be stepped on! Clearly they are more manly, and I mean that as a joke and comment on their marketing.

Interesting comment about collusion with the Democrats, Gene. I postulated recently that Trump was actually a secret double agent for the Dems...there may truly be truth in jest.

No attack, believe what you want, but a lot of folks here talk about not liking either party, but savage the Liberals exclusively. Just a wee bit disingenuous in the name of being "open minded".

As much as there has been to complain about Obama (I know people think I am but I am not a devotee), I have not been compelled yet to abandon course and change to a helter skelter direction navigated by the GOP. No matter who gets credit, business is booming, housing is booming, people willing to work can if they try, stocks are scary but even with big dips are way ahead of several years ago, the world is scary but ya got to admit there's far less war involving us currently...all while the GOP tried to make Dems unelectable as their solitary contribution to a better world. But open eyes can see improvements in the American Condition, unbelievable as it may be!

They may have assured 4 or 8 more years of whatever we have now. So far, I am less scared of that road as I head into retirement in a few short years. And my kids futures all look better than when President Cheney left office.

GOP, you have to beat that, and I am willing to listen, but stop with the Trump noise already. He doesn't really want all that responsibility, he's just using you. He won't use me.

frankj1 wrote:

No Frank but Hillary WILL

TMCTLT wrote:

My understanding is Obama wants to bring 75,000 IIRC here. Have read where they're finding Pakistani ID's and or passports at some of these border crossings that have been discarded, so we / they will NOT really know just who's using this tragedy as a disguise to leave their chitholes.

TMCTLT wrote:

Not using this to support a candidate at all, Paul. I would if I had one. But here's your chance to sell the positives of someone from the GOP...my vote is available. I've heard 8 years of tear down, obstruction, sky is falling. What are the fresh ideas from the right. Is it simply "we don't have any leadership, but hey! We aren't the left"? Or more meaningless Trump catch phrases?

an aside to your previous post, my Boston Globe today says Obama proposes admitting 10K Syrians, not 75K. I'm sure most are against any, but that's a significantly different number.

frankj1 wrote:

I don't know where you get your information, but you really need to find better or more accurate sources.

tonygraz wrote:

LGBT that wasn't a positive. It was a thinly veiled negative thus making the point without knowing it.

teedubbya wrote:

I agree with Frank.

Speyside wrote: