DrMaddVibe
10 years ago

We just watched "Making a Murderer"

WHOA!

Mikekoz13 wrote:



What did you think?

Think he did it the 2nd time?
Mikekoz13
10 years ago

What did you think?

Think he did it the 2nd time?

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Well the documentary certainly makes you think he did not. I'm a little on the fence. It looks like evidence was definitely planted. But cops killing an innocent woman to frame a local country boy that they didn't like? Seems a big stretch to me.

The thing that bothers me..... Was he really stupid enough to kill that woman when he was right on the verge of a huge settlement in his original wrongful conviction lawsuit? He was all set to be a millionaire.

I just saw over the weekend that Avery recently got a new high powered attorney. The new lawyer implied strongly that there is a new blood test to check for EDTA.
chazbo
10 years ago
^ people have killed for a lot less. He was sueing the Mantiwoc police for like 36 million. Every piece of evidence they found on him was discovered by the Mantiwoc police department. Why the hell were they involved in the investigation.
dstieger
10 years ago
'Turn' -- very good, but I did have a little trouble keeping characters straight.

Amazon Prime: 'Man in the High Castle' -- Great premise and very well done -- alternative history..."What if the Axis won WWII?" Left coast is Japanese, East Coast is German and the Rockies are no-man's land....great series
ShanaC@CigarBid
10 years ago


I am on the 3rd season of Fringe. I will have to go back and re-watch from the beginning at some point. You have to pay attention from the very beginning as there is a lot going on and you can get lost. It's a sci-fi movie where an FBI team tries to solve cases. Some of the cases are quite strange.
Mikekoz13
10 years ago

^ people have killed for a lot less. He was sueing the Mantiwoc police for like 36 million. Every piece of evidence they found on him was discovered by the Mantiwoc police department. Why the hell were they involved in the investigation.

chazbo wrote:




Agree 100%. There was a lot of stink on some of those cops.... particularly Lenk.
moonman
10 years ago
My wife and I watched "The Lady Killers" last night. Thank you Coen Brothers!
Whistlebritches
10 years ago
We finished "Man in the High Castle" today on Amazon.Excellent.........looking forward to season 2
chazbo
10 years ago
The Killing, two detectives try to solve a young girls murder. On episodes 10, it's ok. Got to keep watching to see who done it#-o
Whistlebritches
10 years ago

The Killing, two detectives try to solve a young girls murder. On episodes 10, it's ok. Got to keep watching to see who done it#-o

chazbo wrote:



Good series..........
bsadler
10 years ago
stinger88
10 years ago
Jessica Jones
ShanaC@CigarBid
10 years ago

Jessica Jones

stinger88 wrote:



👍 Jessica Jones was good.

Started watching Spartacus. Make sure the kids aren't around when you watch it though; a lot of blood and other things they shouldn't see.
MACS
10 years ago

👍 Jessica Jones was good.

Started watching Spartacus. Make sure the kids aren't around when you watch it though; a lot of blood and other things they shouldn't see.

ShanaC@CigarBid wrote:



Awesome series. Watched it a few years back.
8trackdisco
10 years ago
Lillehammer ran out of gas for us. Gave up after season 1.

Good start, then ran out of things to say.
dkeage
10 years ago

Lillehammer ran out of gas for us. Gave up after season 1.

Good start, then ran out of things to say.

8trackdisco wrote:


Agree. Think I made it halfway thru season 2.

Watching that Making a Murderer documentary. Change my opinion several times so far...:-k
8trackdisco
10 years ago

Agree. Think I made it halfway thru season 2.

Watching that Making a Murderer documentary. Change my opinion several times so far...:-k

dkeage wrote:



When you get done, let me know what you think.

Avery's junkyard is only a 3o minute drive away from the house.

Tourism in Manitowoc is up!
joshander
10 years ago

Started watching Spartacus. Make sure the kids aren't around when you watch it though; a lot of blood and other things they shouldn't see.



Spartacus was so good. I was so disappointed when they changed the main actor that I considered stop watching. But then I found out he got leukemia and died in like 4 months so I kept watching! Then I got distracted by naked girls...

Star Wars clone wars was pretty good and is 100% canon
joshander
10 years ago

What did you think?

Think he did it the 2nd time?

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I know a District Attorney from a nearby county from that time and he said there was a lot that wasn't shown from Brendan Dassey's confession that was too coincidental. Either way, there is too much circumstantial evidence not to convict Avery. If he got framed, wow congrats thats a helluva job.
DrMaddVibe
10 years ago

I know a District Attorney from a nearby county from that time and he said there was a lot that wasn't shown from Brendan Dassey's confession that was too coincidental. Either way, there is too much circumstantial evidence not to convict Avery. If he got framed, wow congrats thats a helluva job.

joshander wrote:




What was done to that kid was heinous. Talk about a travesty of justice. What "circumstantial evidence" and if it didn't get entered then there's the cause for a new trial right there! Anyone with an IQ about 25 can tell this kid isn't right mentally! No parents in the room? Even for that kid? If that police force was so adamant that they had their "man" then you'd think after everything they incompetently did would put EVERYTHING under a microscope and by the books...not them though and especially with this family!

These people are not that bright (the Avery's...the entire family!) and there's no way you knife somebody and shoot somebody and not leave a drop of DNA laying around...there would be blood splatter all over the walls, the mattress, the carpet, the floors...and then there's the fragments of bone in a burn pit that belonged to the victim...where's the rest of the body? Oh, he's so smart that he got rid of ALL the evidence of a murder but decided to park a car on his property and toss some fragments of her burnt remains 30 feet from his house? Remember he's not that intelligent and had a mulit million dollar lawsuit against the county for their incompetence. Brenden's entire confession was coerced and spoonfed to him. This documentary made Wisconsin look like Georgia with the Boss Hogs and the Cooter's running around wrapping all the evil doings in the county on the Duke boys. The supposed blood of Avery's looked like it was swabbed in spots with a Q-Tip...no fingerprints...no hair...just a couple of lines of blood..it even looked fake like it didn't belong in the spots it was found.

I really don't think you even watched the documentary. For you to miss the part where the cops kept on bereating Brendan into a confession and telling them what they wanted to hear just so they could wrap up the case was despicable.

Lt. James Lenk was a longtime Manitowoc County Sheriff's detective. Lenk thrust himself into the Teresa Halbach investigation from the outset, even though her disappearance was reported to the neighboring Calumet County Sheriff's Office, not Manitowoc County.

Once Steven Avery emerged as a prime suspect in Halbach's disappearance, Lenk discovered critical physical evidence to link Avery to the murder of Halbach. Lenk discovered a key to Halbach's RAV4 on the carpeted floor of Avery's bedroom even though the room had been searched by Calumet County investigators numerous times beforehand. Lenk was also on the Avery property four months later when a fragmented bullet was discovered inside of Avery's garage, days after authorities arrested Avery's nephew, Brendan, in connection with the murder. Avery's lawyers suspected that Lenk planted the key and fragmented bullet to shore up law enforcement's mostly circumstantial case against Avery. Lenk retired a few years ago from the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Office. He resides in Green Valley, Arizona. Lenk did not respond to phone messages, and no one answered the door Jan. 8 when a USA TODAY NETWORK reporter from The Arizona Republic rang the doorbell of his home in a golf course community in Green Valley, south of Tucson, Arizona.


http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/steven-avery/2016/01/15/lenk-colborn-okelly-where-they-now/78840672/ 


This POS found evidence that 5 times other officers missed? Seriously? Little ironic that these guys with a known vendetta against this family were even allowed on their property after the first case. If I'm not mistaken, it was Lenk that loaded Avery into the car to go to prison too. Sure looked like him.
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