Ummm if the officers were getting shot, that means the protesters (with or without the guns) were also down range of the shooter. Are you suggesting they had some psychic connection and knew the shooter was just targeting the Leo's? Cut that's silly.

victor809 wrote:

B. Mockery? Are you suggesting open carry should be limited for gatherings or protests? I'm ok with that but many in here will not be, at least if they agree with the protesters. We do have selective minds in here (including mine) that try really hard to pretend they are not. Aren't guns allowed at the RNC convention? That's a gathering.

The fact that anyone could carry a long gun anywhere made it somewhat normal. The shooter could just walk around barely noticed until ready to fire. I'm po gun, but personally I prefer concealed to open carry. Nothing really political in my view, I just prefer not to advertise.

While being pro gun I do think the NRA is digging its own grave. Something about their approach reminds me of the pro smoking folks in the 80s. They have the upper hand for the moment, over play it at times, are about to get cornered, and the anti gun nazis will win. I hope I'm wrong.

teedubbya wrote:

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True....however they were there to PROTEST LE treatment ( in other states ) that had ZERO to do with anything happening in theirs. It's a shame thatthe message is lost when they allow it to be about nothing other than skin color. Did you really think those in that crowd were going to come to the aide of the LEO's???? lolz
Think Black Panthers @ our election boothes in Philly in 08...if that incident had been a bunch of White dudes toting guns and intimidating others....they'd have been arrested and RIGHTFULLY SO, but since they shared skin pigment with our POTUS....it just kinda " went away " didn't it? Never to be heard about again....


And.... if what you said is true.....why wasn't he trying to kill those responsible for MAKING LAW....not the ones tasked with carrying them out???? #-o

TMCTLT wrote:

Bailey identified the bailiffs who were killed as Joseph Zangaro, 61, and Ron Kienzle, 63.