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teedubbya
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9 years ago

#21

Not normal guy talk in my world and has never been accepted as such.

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#22

I wonder if Trump ever mailed a butt-plug to anybody..?? 🤔

opelmanta1900
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9 years ago

#23

Girls walking around with silicone replicas of nixons strapped to them is normal girl activity though?

teedubbya
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9 years ago

#24

I wonder if Trump ever mailed a butt-plug to anybody..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:

lol.... I wouldn't doubt it... that animal....

but is that an equivalent?

I get a kick out of people thinking its about using the word p#ssy etc and not about what he was saying he did and does

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tailgater
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9 years ago

#25

I honestly have never talked about how I can force kisses or p*ssy grabs on chicks.... never... ever... and to be honest I've never been around anyone who has said those sorts of things to me... snd if I did I would avoid them or argue with them.... I just must hang out with different types of people....

I appreciate vulgarity and sick humor... but this is way different.. I think at some point folks will be ashamed of what they are defending

I also wouldn't vote for me for president LOL

teedubbya wrote:

I expected no less from our self righteous bunker of sanctimony.
You never fail to disappoint, all while missing the point.
Because this isn't about verbatim dialog. It's about guys being crass.

teedubbya
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9 years ago

#26

I expected no less from our self righteous bunker of sanctimony.
You never fail to disappoint, all while missing the point.
Because this isn't about verbatim dialog. It's about guys being crass.

tailgater wrote:

you miss the point... it's not just about being crass

I am crass a lot....

I'm just being truthful.... I've never been around anyone speaking like that.... not bad words etc....

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tailgater
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9 years ago

#27

I don't think what trump said can be categorized as locker room talk... more like prison shower talk maybe? But much worse things are definitely said...

You've never heard a racist old white man glory in the things they used to do to the "colored boys"?

opelmanta1900 wrote:

I like how some NFL players are dismissing the "locker room talk" claim.

This.
From guys who shower next to convicted wife beaters and child abusers.

teedubbya
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9 years ago

#28

I like how some NFL players are dismissing the "locker room talk" claim.

This.
From guys who shower next to convicted wife beaters and child abusers.

tailgater wrote:

And murderers

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#29

😟

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tailgater
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9 years ago

#30

you miss the point... it's not just about being crass

I am crass a lot....

I'm just being truthful.... I've never been around anyone speaking like that.... not bad words etc....

teedubbya wrote:

I thought it was you who said "I'd like to fill that hoohaw with ice cream and lick it clean"
My mistake.

tailgater
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9 years ago

#31

And murderers

teedubbya wrote:

They said Vince Foster killed himself.

teedubbya
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9 years ago

#32

I thought it was you who said "I'd like to fill that hoohaw with ice cream and lick it clean"
My mistake.

tailgater wrote:

Prolly wasn't but if it was I take no issue with that..... "I'd like to" is much different than "I just do it because I want to and I'm powerful"

Crass and vulgar is one thing.... and if you choose to define what he was saying as that I totally get what you are saying. I just define what he said as something much different than that, and it's something I'm not familiar with nor would I accept as normal in my world.

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tailgater
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9 years ago

#33

teedubbya wrote:

I simply don't think that words are such a big deal.
He didn't say it to the woman in question.
He said it to another dude.
Who laughed.
he said it in private.
11 years ago.

If it was a precursor to what his actions were, then I think we'd have heard about it by now.

victor809
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9 years ago

#34

Let's be clear. No one cared about the language. It's about the act of assault, and bragging about the act of assault (in the past tense, implying that it has been performed)

How is this so hard to understand?

People would be just as outraged if he said "I sexually assault the women and I can do that because I'm a star".

opelmanta1900
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9 years ago

#35

Didn't he preface the entire thing by saying women would "let him" grab what he wanted because hes a star? "Let him" implying consent not assault?

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#36

true... true.... 😟

teedubbya
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9 years ago

#37

Tail we just disagree.... I'm nowhere near PC and don't get too caught up on words.... he was talking about his actions and that's where we differ.... its not about saying it too someone or not...

opel that's a good argument

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab them by the ****. You can do anything.

I think the "rub" lol is the power position and the I don't even wait I just do it.

I also remember peeps defending cosby until they couldn't anymore and saying where are all the wimmins.... and why didn't they say anything until now..... then they started to come out of the woodwork..... tiger woods while a totally different thing experienced the woodwork effect too.....

I hope I am wrong but I suspect it's going to start and for awhile folks are going to call it convienient and politics (and be partially right)..... but we will see if/when it becomes too much. It is easier for me to beleive this about trump than about cosby frankly.

I hope I am wrong and to quote a great philosopher I am not saying it but people are saying it

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victor809
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9 years ago

#38

Mmmhmmm...
And since he does it without asking, he knows they will "let" him, how?

That happens to your friend or daughter and how would you expect they would react?

teedubbya
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9 years ago

#39

ever met a woman who told you a story about being groped or assaulted by someone in a power position or even just someone they were sort of interested in and they didn't know what to do?

opelmanta1900
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9 years ago

#40

I was asking a serious question for the record... I've already stated his comments were horrific and i don't defend him...

I was just now searching for the full transcript of what he said because i don't want to watch or listen with my kids around and everything I've read has a bunch of "..."s in it...

As far as the i don't even wait i just do it, ya, pretty aggressive and kinda rapey...

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