crgcpro
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 6:25:53 PM

HCM seems insanely expensive..you get half as many beads for essentially the same price as HF...

Hank_The_Tank wrote:

They last forever and there is no maintenance on them. Well worth it if you are storing anything of value.

dharbolt
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 6:50:38 PM

They last forever and there is no maintenance on them. Well worth it if you are storing anything of value.

crgcpro wrote:

No maintenance you say?

qmech
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 7:50:51 PM
Plenty of nice inexpensive options for bid.
tonygraz
Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:52:13 PM

No maintenance you say?

dharbolt wrote:

Just like vinyl siding.

cacman
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:21:03 AM

HCM seems insanely expensive..you get half as many beads for essentially the same price as HF...

Hank_The_Tank wrote:

I always get a laugh at the BOTLs that spare no expense or effort to get the cigars they want, only to pinch every freakin penny to store them properly. Even when I was a noob, I never understood this frugal practice.

I spend a least of 15% of the cost of my computers, TVs, firearms, even vehicles, for "protection" including surge protectors, battery back-ups, regular maintenance and extended warranties. Why would you not apply that same principle with storing your investment in cigars?

crgcpro
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:55:55 AM

No maintenance you say?

dharbolt wrote:

Yes the only thing you need to do is put a shot glass of distilled water in the humidor once every three months for a day or two.

dharbolt
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:52:15 AM

Just like vinyl siding.

tonygraz wrote:

But I have to do maintenance on my vinyl siding...

Pudding Mittens
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:02:43 PM

But I have to do maintenance on my vinyl siding...

dharbolt wrote:

Of course. You have to paint vinyl siding at least once per month, or else it explodes and burns your house down. Everyone knows this!

bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:05:11 PM

I always get a laugh at the BOTLs that spare no expense or effort to get the cigars they want, only to pinch every freakin penny to store them properly. Even when I was a noob, I never understood this frugal practice.

I spend a least of 15% of the cost of my computers, TVs, firearms, even vehicles, for "protection" including surge protectors, battery back-ups, regular maintenance and extended warranties. Why would you not apply that same principle with storing your investment in cigars?

cacman wrote:

I always wondered if anyone actually buys extended warranties... now I know that they do!

Anyway... KL and HF Beads are made out of the same stuff, and they basically work the same.

In my main humidor, I got a pound of HF Beads, in my overflow, I have around a pound of KL, and the both perform equally well.

It's ok to be a tight wad if you're choosing something that performs just as well as something else for a lower cost.

You act like keeping your cigars at 65/65 is rocket science or something, lol.

KingoftheCove
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:59:03 PM

I always wondered if anyone actually buys extended warranties... now I know that they do!

Anyway... KL and HF Beads are made out of the same stuff, and they basically work the same.

In my main humidor, I got a pound of HF Beads, in my overflow, I have around a pound of KL, and the both perform equally well.

It's ok to be a tight wad if you're choosing something that performs just as well as something else for a lower cost.

You act like keeping your cigars at 65/65 is rocket science or something, lol.

bgz wrote:

BGZ, you are going to infuriate the HF fanboys, and the KL haters.

This argument has been raging all over the interwebs FOREVER!

Really smart guys says KL is one way only. Really smart guys say KL is two way.

Really smart guys say HF beads are unique. Really smart guys say HF beads are essentially no different than KL.

As I noted above, I use KL, HF and Bovedas, and like them all.

I personally, based on my own tests and observations, know for a fact that KL is 2 way humidification in my setups.

If KL is such crap, why is it that waaaaay more botl use KL, than all other media combined?

bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:05:40 PM

BGZ, you are going to infuriate the HF fanboys, and the KL haters.

This argument has been raging all over the interwebs FOREVER!

Really smart guys says KL is one way only. Really smart guys say KL is two way.

Really smart guys say HF beads are unique. Really smart guys say HF beads are essentially no different than KL.

As I noted above, I use KL, HF and Bovedas, and like them all.

I personally, based on my own tests and observations, know for a fact that KL is 2 way humidification in my setups.

If KL is such crap, why is it that waaaaay more botl use KL, than all other media combined?

KingoftheCove wrote:

Nothing further to add to that (till this subject comes up next time lol)

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ZRX1200
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:06:44 PM
Why does Budweiser sell more beer than Deschutes....
dstieger
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:10:44 PM
because it's better?
dstieger
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:11:47 PM
or...maybe because people are just inexplicably drawn towards cat urine?
KingoftheCove
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:16:17 PM

Why does Budweiser sell more beer than Deschutes....

ZRX1200 wrote:

Why does Gurkha sell more cigars than Illusione?

heh heh...

KingoftheCove
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:20:31 PM

or...maybe because people are just inexplicably drawn towards cat urine?

dstieger wrote:

ah.............you may be on to something here.

That ammonia smell from a dirty cat box is similar to the smell coming off the foot of a cheapazz cigar containing poorly fermented tobacco.

Thus, one can assume that people who use KL, all buy and smoke dog rockets.

Makes sense to me.

dstieger
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:22:27 PM

Thus, one can assume that people who use KL, all buy and smoke dog rockets.

KingoftheCove wrote:

and drink Bud Lite?

KingoftheCove
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:26:23 PM

and drink Bud Lite?

dstieger wrote:

precisely!

And CC and Padron smokers only drink htf expensive beers, and of course, light their cigars with $100 bills, and drink their beers out of expensive crystal goblets.

cacman
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:09:04 PM

If KL is such crap, why is it that waaaaay more botl use KL, than all other media combined?

KingoftheCove wrote:

Because waaaaay more botl are cheap frugal batsids when it comes to cigar storage, and would rather spend the money on more unicorn cigars.

Buying KL instead of quality humidification beads is like buying a classic hotrod and keeping it in the driveway under a tarp. Yes the tarp will keep the weather off the car, but it is not as effective as keeping it in the garage.

Checkers sells more than chess. Have at the KL ya cheap bastids. I got 2 cats that will put it to good use.

cacman
Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:12:56 PM

I always wondered if anyone actually buys extended warranties... now I know that they do!

Anyway... KL and HF Beads are made out of the same stuff, and they basically work the same.

bgz wrote:

Those extended warranties have paid for themselves more than once my friend.

KL and HF beads are NOT made of the same stuff. KL absorbs odors. I kinda like the smell of cedar and cigars when I open my cooledor.