DrafterX
9 years ago
Obama sanctioned with no proof so they must be guilty right..?? 😕
teedubbya
9 years ago
I get what you are saying. It's sort of like the lack of an Adlai Stevenson moment prior to Iraq that made me go oh **** we got nothing.

That said what I've read has been pretty compelling and I recognize much can not be released because it would give our tactics away. Trump of all people would appreciate that so I'm sure he wouldn't leverage that to his perceived benefit.

That said while dubious of our government and intel I tend to hold it in higher regard than Russia's and also recognizing politics creep in to our intel it's still not like Russia's where they are one.

All that aside of course russia is meddling in ours and the worlds internal affairs where they can. It's in their best interest. We need to protect ourselves and push back.

This isn't about trump or Clinton to me. Accept who won and approach the Russian subject aggressively without regard to politics. We are adult enough to do that.
teedubbya
9 years ago
I actually agree with trump. It didn't cause him to win. I just wish everyone on both sides would stipulate that so the conversation could focus and we could act as one America rather than one party or another where putting higher credence in a Putin government makes sense.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I agree... but many are using this to try to discredit the election results... keep em separated... 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago
Yup. keep it separated. Many are also discounting it for the same reason. Equally bogus.
DrafterX
9 years ago
Would be nice to see proof but I too understand the dangers... 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago
I don't need proof. I just assume they do these things. The proof internally for our leaders should be designed to help them learn how to better protect ourselves and to push back. Focus. Our lack of focus helps them.
teedubbya
9 years ago
Healthy skepticism of our government is cool, considering putins as any sort of equivalent is insanity to me.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I wouldn't want to be President but I think Putin's boldness comes from a lack of retaliation for their recent actions... if the President draws a red line he'd best back it up... last thing I want is another war but we can't be walked on either. .. 😟
DrafterX
9 years ago
I'm sure he was watching our dealings and lack of retaliation against Iran real close too.... 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago
Agree with you there specific to Putin. Too late for Obama to get tough.
DrafterX
9 years ago
He shoulda invited Putin over for a beer sumit... 🍺
frankj1
9 years ago
I accept the election results as legitimate.
Speyside
9 years ago
I have to believe Frank, he's like a genius.
DrafterX
9 years ago
True.. true... I just hope Trump doesn't screw up... I think he's surrounded himself with smart enough people to keep him inline tho..
😟
frankj1
9 years ago

True.. true... I just hope Trump doesn't screw up... I think he's surrounded himself with smart enough people to keep him inline tho..
😟

DrafterX wrote:


smaht enough to invest in and with Russia?

DrafterX
9 years ago
I don't think comunication is a bad thing. .. I can't imagine him risking anything as close as he's gonna be watched... 😟
DrafterX
9 years ago
We gotta give him a chance... we can choose agai in 4 years.... 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago
As close as he is going to be watched? He doesn't gaf. He thinks he can get away with anything and may be right.
teedubbya
9 years ago
Many will support anything he says or does...


I know I know Obama.......
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