I won't open the link, but if you're trying to show there was racism in America pre-Obama, then yeah. I know.
And if you're trying to show that Obama was met with racist resistance. Again, Duh.

What I'm saying is that Obama not only did nothing to improve race relations, his words, actions and inaction has actually made it worse after 8 years.

Maybe it's just perception, magnifide through social media.
But I don't recall ever talking about race the way we do now. EVERYTHING is now tied to race.

Al, is that like the plants at Tea Party rallies?

Yea the teabaggers sure like gardening.

I don't think racism is worse today than when Obama took office. He may have done more for improving race relations than he's given credit for, and that may only become apparent after a few years. One current indicator is his approval rating as he leaves office. Rasmussen pegs his approval at about 60%, a number that far exceeds the number of minorities in the U.S.A., and has only happened a few times with other two term Presidents. So some white people think he did a decent job. The fact that he survived 8 years without any help, no, with total obstruction if we're being honest, from the opposing party and actually lifted America from near catastrophe, will probably be looked upon favorably by later generations. He will provide an example to future Americans that someone other than a white man can lead this great country.

Although I don't personally like Mr. Trump, I hope he can be viewed as highly as Obama after his Presidency. That means that he will have had a successful run, which means that America will be a better place.

I don't remember the BLM thing before Obama... Cops getting shot almost everyday wasn't happening either... just sayin... 😟

"If I had a son he would look like Travon" I guess there is nothing divisive about that statement. Nor would sending high ranking government officials to Ferguson to hold hands and sing kumbaya because a black criminal thug got shot trying to beat a white police officer in his car.

Those cases and others were racially charged. The ........ took the low ground in each of them. Not to mention his hiring of the most rascist Attorney General in the history of the US.

he was acting stupidly... 😟

He definitely didn't play that issue down the middle and did not balance his duty as commander and chief and minority advocate very well. He very much embraced the latter more than the former in this arena. He may have felt he had to given the historic win, and pressure from the community, but I agree he didn't do it well and things are more volatile than they were in my opinion. But maybe you also have to break a few eggs and maybe they are just more visibly volatile and we are seeing what has been there all along.

I don't know. I don't see much interest in understanding other views or coming together from any side.

I think TW hit on what I was gonna say. The existence of organizations like BLM now doesn't mean the problem didn't exist before... just that they were too afraid of repercussions to point it out.

I think we're seeing groups start to stick up for themselves when previously they didn't. As a white guy the easy route is to assume there must not have been a problem before these groups. But that's just because we never would have a reason to see it.

Of course the problem (racism) existed before. Nobody claims Obama invented it.
But to say that groups were "afraid of repercussions"? that's pure BS.
There are so many black-centric organizations that BLM was just one more. Until they started riots and became news worthy.
that's not fearing repercussions. That's thuggery. And it would be separate from the Obama administration if Obama denounced them in any fashion.
Silence can be deafening. and the things our sitting President chose to speak out against and what he remained silent speaks volumes about his true (lack of) character.
In my opinion.





Nice use of white guilt.

Look, if you want to legitimize the liberal rhetoric, fine.
Just don't expect to be taken seriously.

... dude. I just can't fathom how you're having such a problem with this.

The purpose of BLM was pretty clear. And it came into existence due to actual problems that were occurring.

Guess what... those problems existed long before BLM existed. And likely a large reason for the timing is simply the ubiquity of cellphone video to allow blacks to provide video evidence of their claims.

You want to delegitimize all of BLM because of rioting... that's not smart. The problem exists and will continue to exist until it's fixed. Rioting may not solve the problem but neither does pretending to ignore it because your delicate sensibilities are offended by their method of bringing it to your attention.

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but true rioting is illegal... your saying it's justifiable to make a point..?? Do you really think the people actually rioting give a chit or just want a new tv..?? 🤔

I didn't say it's justified. You read that into my statement.

I said rioting and misbehavior doesn't make the root problem disappear and it's not smart to dismiss an issue just because the method of bringing it to light is rioting.

Let's say tail shoots my dog.

I may respond to that in a number of different ways. I may just file a police report and follow the legal route.
Or I may poop on his doorstep.

One method of brining the issue to the attention of authority is legal the other isnt. They may have different levels of success or even different levels of satisfaction.

Neither impacts the severity of the issue.

Why does Tail hate your puppy-dog..?? 😕

Tail hates all puppy dogs.

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As in the white "racist" cop involved in the "racist" arrest of Henry Gates, the black Harvard professor(and personal friend of Obama) who was arrested trying to break into a house(his own home as it turned out.) But while the cop gathered the info to determine that it was Gates' home, he was met with attitude and derision from Gates, he got aggravated and placed Gates into custody until he could gather the needed information without Gates'es (????) interference.

Without having any real information about the incident, other than it was a black man (and Friend of Obama) and a white cop, on July 22,2009, Obama was making statements like, " I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That's just a fact."

President Obama appeared unannounced at a White House press briefing on July 24, and said, "I want to make clear that in my choice of words I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sergeant Crowley specifically – and I could have calibrated those words differently." Also, that "I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station. I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Professor Gates probably overreacted as well."

And then the "BEER SUMMIT"..............and then racially everything was......well, we all know how everything has been since then

You forgot to mention Gates' comments about the cops momma... 😟

reading post 118 makes me wonder why anyone is upset with Obama.