DrafterX
9 years ago
Racist... 😟
victor809
9 years ago
You need an ID to initiate that. But not to maintain it. There was a time in my life, many years in fact, when I owned a home, worked, had bank accounts and did not have a "valid" government ID... my old drivers license had expired and I had no reason to get a new one in the state I was living. If that state had required a photo IDto vote it would have been an unnecessary hindrance to me.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I bet you still carried the expired pic ID tho... many places won't let you use a credit card without showing an pic ID... 😟
opelmanta1900
9 years ago

You need an ID to initiate that. But not to maintain it. There was a time in my life, many years in fact, when I owned a home, worked, had bank accounts and did not have a "valid" government ID... my old drivers license had expired and I had no reason to get a new one in the state I was living. If that state had required a photo IDto vote it would have been an unnecessary hindrance to me.

victor809 wrote:


but that proves the point of the other side... you didn't have an id because you were lazy...
victor809
9 years ago
That's fair. But I also didn't do it because it really wasn't convenient and I had other things of higher priority. Why would I want to have to figure out how to get to a dmv when didn't need a driver's license for anything I did. I can understand if someone had things like a kid and bad job wouldn't have time at all to do that. Especially if they worked during dmv hours. Now that doesn't mean it discriminates against one race specifically... but it does discriminate against the working poor in urban areas (where cars aren't a necessity)... and apparently rural areas of Alabama according to monkey...
MACS
9 years ago
^How do those people have bank accounts? Cash checks? Buy booze? Tobacco products? Apply for food stamps? Apply for welfare? Apply for unemployment? Medicaid, or social security or SSDI? Pick up prescriptions?

The excuse that poor people are more adversely affected is plain and simple Bull Sheet. If they're so poor they receive benefits... they need an ID to apply for them.
MACS
9 years ago
And now I shall drop the microphone.
victor809
9 years ago
1 - not everyone who is poor receives benefits. I'm surprised you're only concerned about the poor who leech off the system but don't care about those who might not.
2 - I already pointed out how one could have a bank account. I had one for probably 7+ years without having an id.
3- it's even easier these days to cash a check without id. I cash my checks over the phone or through an atm. What sort of 20th century tools do you use?
4- buy booze or tobacco? You now are only concerned about the poor who smoke and drink...? Or are young enough to get carded for smoking and drinking?...

Might want to pick that Mic up. I don't think you're done with it.

There's a simple pattern here. Your average suburbanite assumes everyone needs a driver's license... because they can't imagine living their life without one. But there are a lot of people who can live without one.. I think the gfs driver's license has expired since we moved to SF and she doesn't want a CA License... so she fits in that now.

But urban areas are where one party does well and another party does poorly. So of course they're both going to tell you how much the other side is lying and just wants to cheat the system. In that situation I'm going to default to less regulation not more. But you go ahead with your desire for big government.

As for monkeys example ice got no idea... I don't know how things work in the deep south... But that sh1t seems questionable as hell
MACS
9 years ago
Sorry, Victor. The mic was dropped... once dropped, it can't be picked up.
victor809
9 years ago
Well... then you're gonna look pretty stupid standing there in front of a Mic on the ground...

...but maybe the federal government can make a regulation or something to help you out.
SmokeMonkey
9 years ago


As for monkeys example ice got no idea... I don't know how things work in the deep south... But that sh1t seems questionable as hell

victor809 wrote:



It was indeed, which is why, in the face of a couple of investigations, the offices in question were reopened. My point was, that whether it was by design or a fortuitous coincidence, either side can and will take action to deter the other. It's not just the GOP (as I pointed out further down), it just happened to be in this case.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I think there's a difference between not wanting one and not being able to get one... everyone can get one..
now if you want to use that as an excuse for not being able to vote I have no sympathy... I don't care what your situation is, elections are 4 years apart.. that's a hell of a long time and a bunch excuses for not getting it done... 😟
tonygraz
9 years ago
Not too long ago you could get killed going into the south and trying to get people registered to vote.
tailgater
9 years ago

You need an ID to initiate that. But not to maintain it. There was a time in my life, many years in fact, when I owned a home, worked, had bank accounts and did not have a "valid" government ID... my old drivers license had expired and I had no reason to get a new one in the state I was living. If that state had required a photo IDto vote it would have been an unnecessary hindrance to me.

victor809 wrote:



I thought you were white?
DrafterX
9 years ago

Not too long ago you could get killed going into the south and trying to get people registered to vote.

tonygraz wrote:




Irrelevant... 😟

But since you brought it up... why are we allowed to recruit..?? knock door to door and offer free beers and a BigMac to people in exchange for a voting in an election they don't give a chit about in the first place... 🤐
tailgater
9 years ago

Sorry, Victor. The mic was dropped... once dropped, it can't be picked up.

MACS wrote:



Kinda like soap in the shower?

SmokeMonkey
9 years ago

I thought you were white?

tailgater wrote:



Tail, I literally lol-ed at this!
delta1
9 years ago
My mother-in-law registered her two kids (my wife and brother-in-law) when they became of voting age in the 1980's. For years she would send in three absentee ballots, for herself and her two kids. She was a staunch Rep, as were all her friends at the American Association of University Women. Her friends in the AAUW, at least the 4-5 who played cards with my MIL and had kids, did the same. Eventually, when the kids moved out, she stopped, but the kids had been indoctrinated and are GOP........voter fraud?
DrafterX
9 years ago
If the kids didn't sign them yes... 😟
MACS
9 years ago

My mother-in-law registered her two kids (my wife and brother-in-law) when they became of voting age in the 1980's. For years she would send in three absentee ballots, for herself and her two kids. She was a staunch Rep, as were all her friends at the American Association of University Women. Her friends in the AAUW, at least the 4-5 who played cards with my MIL and had kids, did the same. Eventually, when the kids moved out, she stopped, but the kids had been indoctrinated and are GOP........voter fraud?

delta1 wrote:



Yeah, I'd say so, unless her kids were aware and okay with it.
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