delta1
9 years ago
wikileaks about Hillary was good...leaks about Trump's behavior bad...that's straight? ...right?
frankj1
9 years ago

Neither is/was he.

And who cares about uranium when there's the pizza sex scandal to talk about?!

tailgater wrote:


news: he is.

I write of uranium cuz it is posted here thrice a day as fact
frankj1
9 years ago

Do you honestly think it's as big a deal as this whole situation has become?

People don't even know WHY "Russia" is a bad thing.
They hate trump. And that's all that matters.

Just look at the Trump/Putin history in the news.
First he's buddies with him. Which was deemed as a bad thing.
Then they were enemies. Again, this is very bad.
Now we're back to them being bedfellows and it's bad. Again.

Time to sh*t or get off the pot.
Instead, the media choose to just stir.

tailgater wrote:


I think it is worth a look. then I can answer your question of worth it or not. After that, we will know if the many connections are problematic.

I chuckle every time you write "had contact" or "spoke to". Why lighten the language, unless it is too damning?

Is it possible you do not know the deep levels of involvement of the original campaign manager, and Flynn, and on and on? Not contacts, Joe, but lots and lots of money...and kept quiet from US.

Let's find out, we deserve to know that we all get a clean bill of health...but I tell ya again, it won't end up as an election issue, just as whitewater didn't end up as a failed real estate deal, but a sex act.

Hope we aren't Monica.

delta1
9 years ago
Damm Russkies are slick, devious and malicious...hacking the DNC emails was just a tip of the iceberg of the tool-kit they used to mess with our election. One of their first accomplishments, an indication that they had an insider in the Trump campaign early on, before the GOP convention, was the late switch in language about US assistance to Ukraine in the GOP platform. That came out of thin air, and was a head scratcher when the Trump campaign insisted on the change that benefited the Russian involvement in Ukraine, just a few days before the convention. That was one of the first public signs that there may be a there there.
Speyside
9 years ago
TG, I am just as irate about what the DNC did to Sanders. I don't think the Russians caused voter fraud, but I do think they influenced the election. Though I think Comey most influenced the election.
Abrignac
9 years ago

Damm Russkies are slick, devious and malicious...hacking the DNC emails was just a tip of the iceberg of the tool-kit they used to mess with our election. One of their first accomplishments, an indication that they had an insider in the Trump campaign early on, before the GOP convention, was the late switch in language about US assistance to Ukraine in the GOP platform. That came out of thin air, and was a head scratcher when the Trump campaign insisted on the change that benefited the Russian involvement in Ukraine, just a few days before the convention. That was one of the first public signs that there may be a there there.

delta1 wrote:



Come on my friend. Had the Dems not authored the emails, they would not have been leaked. Blaming the Russians is nothing but deflection.
teedubbya
9 years ago
And a crime.
tailgater
9 years ago

I think it is worth a look. then I can answer your question of worth it or not. After that, we will know if the many connections are problematic.

I chuckle every time you write "had contact" or "spoke to". Why lighten the language, unless it is too damning?

Is it possible you do not know the deep levels of involvement of the original campaign manager, and Flynn, and on and on? Not contacts, Joe, but lots and lots of money...and kept quiet from US.

Let's find out, we deserve to know that we all get a clean bill of health...but I tell ya again, it won't end up as an election issue, just as whitewater didn't end up as a failed real estate deal, but a sex act.

Hope we aren't Monica.

frankj1 wrote:



But "had contact" and "spoke to" is the only accurate terms, at least until we know otherwise.
You're the one that is speculating and treating it as fact.

So take your own advice. Let's find out. But you've already made up your mind.
gummy jones
9 years ago

she's not now nor was then President. The level of concern existed in proportion.

and the way the story is told here, I'm certain many actually believe she sold physical uranium owned by the US to Russia. Very few actually understand the transaction, the players, and the process of the approval sign-off.

frankj1 wrote:



i would bet the clinton foundation and its funding (that is proven) didnt get 1/100th as much run time on the MSM as the current unproven accusations. heck, we were hearing about trump and the russians from campaign day 1.
frankj1
9 years ago

But "had contact" and "spoke to" is the only accurate terms, at least until we know otherwise.
You're the one that is speculating and treating it as fact.

So take your own advice. Let's find out. But you've already made up your mind.

tailgater wrote:


seriously?
You don't know of the documented facts/derived incomes re: Flynn and Montichristowhatever?

Sessions "had contact", and I'd be surprised if a man in his position did not have contact. For very little reason, he removed himself, I assume because it would look biased had he not...good move.

Read earlier posts of mine, I keep saying that I hope it ends up clear for the good of the country (along with some, but to deny there are enough reasons to investigate, that is the mind that is made up. I'm still wanting answer so I will know the truth. My mind is open to the truth, but made up in regards to the need to get there.
DrafterX
9 years ago
Sounds like any evidence they find was gathered by Obama illegally anyways so it's getting thrown out... 😟
frankj1
9 years ago
now you cut that out!
delta1
9 years ago

Come on my friend. Had the Dems not authored the emails, they would not have been leaked. Blaming the Russians is nothing but deflection.

Abrignac wrote:



You're right about who authored the emails...but leaking emails wasn't the only thing, nor the most serious that the Russians did. You may not have read the rest of my post, or are in denial about the other stuff that has happened that arouses suspicions about Russian activities during the presidential elections. Other stuff has been reported and documented and listed here in other threads, but most Trump supporters dismiss them as inconsequential, possibly without even looking into them.

The unexpected and unexplained change in the GOP platform to favor Russia in Ukraine at the insistence of the Trump campaign is like a canary in the mine...an indication that the Russians had engaged an ally (or more) among members of Trump's inner circle. Brennan's testimony indicates more than one were being targeted by Russian agents...

It stretches the imagination that Trump was unaware, but Christie's free ride after Bridgegate after his top aides were convicted proves anything is possible...

I am certain that had the Russians did anything to help Clinton win the election and undermine Trump, you would be demanding an investigation and urging the House to start impeachment proceedings...
tailgater
9 years ago

You're right about who authored the emails...but leaking emails wasn't the only thing, nor the most serious that the Russians did. You may not have read the rest of my post, or are in denial about the other stuff that has happened that arouses suspicions about Russian activities during the presidential elections. Other stuff has been reported and documented and listed here in other threads, but most Trump supporters dismiss them as inconsequential, possibly without even looking into them.

The unexpected and unexplained change in the GOP platform to favor Russia in Ukraine at the insistence of the Trump campaign is like a canary in the mine...an indication that the Russians had engaged an ally (or more) among members of Trump's inner circle. Brennan's testimony indicates more than one were being targeted by Russian agents...

It stretches the imagination that Trump was unaware, but Christie's free ride after Bridgegate after his top aides were convicted proves anything is possible...

I am certain that had the Russians did anything to help Clinton win the election and undermine Trump, you would be demanding an investigation and urging the House to start impeachment proceedings...

delta1 wrote:



What are you talking about?
The Trump administration has upheld the sanctions and have clearly stated that they would remain in place unless Russia made moves that pleased the NATO G7 demands.

It's amazing how news gets twisted. I saw the "reports" that claimed Trump wanted to eliminate the Russian sanctions. But if they ever did exist they were never implemented.
And think about this:
Obama's America did nothing to directly thwart Russia from the Crimea peninsula.
But when Trumps' America does "equally nothing" you claim he's been influenced by Rubles?
LOL!

Truth be told, the world would be a better place if America and Russia were allies.
But with the warped perspective issued by the media and swallowed whole by people like you, that could never happen without you claiming that it proves corruption.
I would "LOL" again, but it's too damn sad.

delta1
9 years ago
Trump's campaign insisted on changing the GOP platform's stance on Ukraine: they insisted on deleting the provision that the US would provide lethal weapons to the rebels who were fighting the Russians.

Amazing that the GOP considered that Russia was the greatest threat to the US as recently as the 2012 elections, when Romney was running...and through 2016, before Trump's rise to power...
DrafterX
9 years ago
well, da Russians weren't fighting ISIS back then either... but I'm sure it all because of the collusion instead... 😟
delta1
9 years ago
The generals in Syria have said Russian isn't helping us to fight ISIS...no Russian boots on the ground or planes in the air fighting ISIS in Iraq...

...did you see Trump shove the PM of Montenegro aside so he could get to the front of the NATO pack for the photo op? Putin hates that guy (word is he's on the "list") so he prolly liked what his dog Trump did...

...and Trump clowned all the NATO deadbeats without saying he's got their backs...so he occasionally can reach back to his campaign rhetoric...

...but...aren't all of them our friends and allies...who stepped up and had our backs after 9/11...???...
Abrignac
9 years ago

The generals in Syria have said Russian isn't helping us to fight ISIS...no Russian boots on the ground or planes in the air fighting ISIS in Iraq...

...did you see Trump shove the PM of Montenegro aside so he could get to the front of the NATO pack for the photo op? Putin hates that guy (word is he's on the "list") so he prolly liked what his dog Trump did...

...and Trump clowned all the NATO deadbeats without saying he's got their backs...so he occasionally can reach back to his campaign rhetoric...

...but...aren't all of them our friends and allies...who stepped up and had our backs after 9/11...???...

delta1 wrote:



There're our friends and allies while we foot the bill to defend them. When friends like them....

**** the guy from Montenegro. Why should he be in front anyway?
ZRX1200
9 years ago
Which generals?

The ones fighting them, or the side that funded and armed them?
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