Dumb people using bad data

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379415001420 

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Poor Macs... 😞

since I've actually personally witnessed an illegal immigrant voting, you can be assured this study is bullsh*t...

was he eating a Big Mac..?? 😕

... because you saw one, a study saying 5 to 7 million did must be true?

Yeah.... ok

I saw one too... 😟

I have no idea what you're talking about... you posted a link to a study that said "the number of illegal immigrants voting was likely zero"... I was pointing out that that's an outright lie...

The article MACS posted referenced a study in 2010 or 2012 which identified self reported illegal immigrants self reporting that they voted. This was extrapolated to 5 to 7 million (I actually have no problem with the extrapolation, that's what statistics does).

The article I posted went back and checked those initial self reported voting illegal immigrants and found no evidence that any of them actually voted. It appears the self reporting was incorrect. So statistically, the number of illegal immigrants voting is zero. That is not the same as a true zero, it just means that within the margin if error; there were zero. That puts the real number (which will never be known) significantly closer to zero than "5 to 7 million"

So you're calling illegal immigrants liars? Racist!

I really didn't realize the study you posted was related to the one macs posted... i just opened the link, saw the statement about zero illegals voting, didn't bother reading on since i know that isnt true... but 5 to 7 million seems crazy high... not out of the realm of possibility though I suppose.... 5 to 7 million is like less than one percent of how many Mexicans there are...

People, wake up. As stated above statistical zero does not mean actual zero. If you call BS at least understand the math used.

That's why I said bad data opel....

Someone went back and checked the voting rolls for the people who claimed to have voted and didn't find any evidence they actually did. That puts the data in real question... but it doesn't seem to stop some people from using it and posting more stats based on it.

But mention climate change and they suddenly are very interested in whether the underlying data is reliable.

Dammit... wrong link.
The one I posted showed the statistical issue with it and essentially turned the number to zero because of that (interesting read... deals with how large categories impact associated smaller categories). Let me find the other one

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-illegal-votes-evidence-debunked-214487 

Shaffener found 1 of the 85 had voted. 1..
And given the statistics behind the study this individual is likely a citizen.

So if "Zero" crazed terrorists want to kill you, that's OK?

Tail doesn't understand statistics...

I should have guessed.

why would a crazed terrorist want to kill Speyside? He seems like a reasonable guy...

I heard he said somethin about their mommas.... 😟

if he did...it was prolly true...