teedubbya
9 years ago
Things sure go over you head
opelmanta1900
9 years ago

I been shouting that for a LONG time....get government out of the marriage business. I would assume that some well-meaning politicians felt that by offering tax breaks to married couples, the nation would be better off....strengthening/encouraging nuclear families and all that...once in, they had to define, regulate, license, etc. It never stops. Roll it back, get government out of marriage discussions....even remove the jointness of tax filings....like that will ever happen...we can dream, I suppose

dstieger wrote:



I'm married, 2 kids... when I was single I'd get maybe $1k back on taxes even though I paid in a lot... now, contribution is far less but we see around $6k... I detest it... I hate the money changing hands... what's mine is mine and what's yours is yours... your money shouldn't be used to reward or incentivize me or anyone else to do anything...
opelmanta1900
9 years ago

Things sure go over you head

teedubbya wrote:


rip wheel...
TMCTLT
9 years ago

Things sure go over you head

teedubbya wrote:




Perhaps...it's diifficult to tell around here when the " humoring stops " and the real **** slinging starts. But by all means enlighten me on what I've miss interpreted
delta1
9 years ago
...before PC, some citizens couldn't own property in many places, were not allowed in some public establishments, couldn't get jobs in many municipal, state and federal government departments, were openly mistreated because of some physical condition over which they had no control...not funny...serious question: why do some people miss those days?
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
cheap gas...
DrafterX
9 years ago
I completely understand what you're saying Delta.. but Homosexuality is not a race or religion... I guess the could form a militia if they wanted tho.. 🤔
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
if you build it, they will come...
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
it'd be like Jerry's Kids... but you'd call it Drafter's Queers...
delta1
9 years ago

cheap gas...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



lol...and there was an actual thing called "penny candy"...some really good stuff: bubble gum, Kits, Now Laters, Taffy, Jaw Breakers, for just one cent...

I wonder if I gave up some of my rights, can we get "penny candy" back?
TMCTLT
9 years ago

...before PC, some citizens couldn't own property in many places, were not allowed in some public establishments, couldn't get jobs in many municipal, state and federal government departments, were openly mistreated because of some physical condition over which they had no control...not funny...serious question: why do some people miss those days?

delta1 wrote:




And after PC we now have homosexuals targeting businesses who hold deeply religious beliefs that to assist in ANY way in a homosexual's union is to break their beliefs. Tell me this, when one of those businesses even goes out of their way to list " other businesses " who're happy to help the homo's and their wedding plans....that's still NOT GOOD ENOUGH? Because it is about forcing EVERYONE to bend ( over ) to their will. And let's be honest Al this IS what's been going on. Perhaps had they NOT been so OPEN publicly about their sexual preferences none of this would ever have come to this. I mean I don't go around telling everyone that I'm heterosexual and **** with them and having our courts **** with them further until they " celebrate my sexuality ) after paying a hefty fine for my views.
delta1
9 years ago
I kinda see your point.. a business should have the right to choose it's customers...sorta like "no shoes, no shirt, two dix, no service"

I'm not persuaded either way, except we all agree that the US is a country defined by the rule of law. Since this issue is being litigated, I'm willing to abide by whatever decision is made at the highest judicial level. If there are enough Americans who disagree, then they can persuade Congress to pass a law, and have the President sign it...
DrafterX
9 years ago

I kinda see your point.. a business should have the right to choose it's customers...sorta like "no shoes, no shirt, two dix, no service"

I'm not persuaded either way, except we all agree that the US is a country defined by the rule of law. Since this issue is being litigated, I'm willing to abide by whatever decision is made at the highest judicial level. If there are enough Americans who disagree, then they can persuade Congress to pass a law, and have the President sign it...

delta1 wrote:




That didn't work in California tho did it... the people said no... 😟
opelmanta1900
9 years ago
DRAFTER'S QUEERS
dstieger
9 years ago

I kinda see your point.. a business should have the right to choose it's customers...
...

delta1 wrote:




I agree with this. I also can accept a bunch of exceptions....fair housing laws....civil rights laws....but, I haven't wrapped my head around the idea that 'sexual orientation...or whatever trans/confused/bi/crossdressing, etc' are representatives of a 'protected class'...like race or religion....
victor809
9 years ago
... I'm pretty sure there's a greater justification for protecting a gender or sexuality over a religion.

You can choose to be one religion or another. If you don't like being persecuted for your religious beliefs, choose another religion.

There is strong evidence that trans, gay, queer people do not have a choice in their gender/sexuality.
frankj1
9 years ago

I kinda see your point.. a business should have the right to choose it's customers...sorta like "no shoes, no shirt, no kikes, no chinks, no niggars, no Frogs, no wops, no pollocks, no Harps, no krauts, two dix.......


no America"

delta1 wrote:



fify
opelmanta1900
9 years ago

... I'm pretty sure there's a greater justification for protecting a gender or sexuality over a religion.

You can choose to be one religion or another. If you don't like being persecuted for your religious beliefs, choose another religion.

There is strong evidence that trans, gay, queer people do not have a choice in their gender/sexuality.

victor809 wrote:



My *****'!
DrafterX
9 years ago
Choice.. nobody was born queer.. a product of their environment maybe.. but still a choice.. 😟
frankj1
9 years ago

Choice.. nobody was born queer.. a product of their environment maybe.. but still a choice.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:


sorry buddy. You are not correct.
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