Did they do something illegal? Flynn and Manafort not registering as foreign agents, maybe. Kushner not listing his meeting with a Russian, probably not. Sessions, probably not. The others highly doubtful. Did they lie, yes.
Speyside wrote:
Then what's the big deal?
Are we to be a world full of Polly Anna's and believe that there isn't a politician or a political aide who has never told a lie, or provided misleading information?
Are we to believe that no politician or a political aide has ever met with a foreign national and/or agent received information about their opposition?
The fact that this is such a big deal is a joke. I would bet this type of crap happens very frequently. Not that I condone it, but for God's sake to call someone treasonous for doing what the people you support have done is abso*****inglutely redickyouless.
Jeez.....
That's what is so *****ed up with our nation. It seems everyone condones bad behavior as long as it's their guy/girl doing it.
Specifics, Flynn and Manafort are now listed as foreign agents. They did not do this initially. At various intervene they said they had not met with Russians. On Kushner security clearance paperwork he listed no meeting with Russians, he has since amended his paperwork. Trump junior first said his meeting was about adoptions and he had no previous knowledge who he would be meeting with. Then he said it was about adoptions and sanctions. The email trail clearly shows he knew in advance that the meet was about dirt on Hillary that the Russians could provide. I suppose I should comment on naive and silly, how about meh.
What's your point? Do you believe that Bill and Loretta talked about their grand kids on the tarmac?
Jr. got caught in a lie. Obviously you're not so naive to think he's the first one to ever tell a lie?
I have not called anyone treasonous. I said they lied. Nor has Hillary ever been my people. I will say emphatically Hillary should not be president. I hope she fades away. I will say just as emphatically Trump is our president through election. If you do not think that people who lie at the very top of our government is a problem I don't think you will ever understand my point of view or that I will ever understand your point of view.
Sorry I wasn't clear. You never called him treasonous. I was referring to those in the media. My fault for not being clear about that.
I have a huge problem with those at the top of our government lying to us. For that matter, I have a problem with anyone lying to me.
Perhaps I'm just too cynical. Too me, it's wasted breath as I don't see it ever ending.
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Would you stop assuming I am good with the Democratic lies and dirty deeds, I am not.
Point taken
wait this out.
there is simply no reason, other than deflection, to be mentioning Democrats right now.
frankj1 wrote:
No deflection meant Frank. I'm pretty sure we've been lied to. My point is it didn't just start a year or so ago. In my book two wrongs still don't make a right.
However, its a very slippery slope. Don't think for a moment that if anyone goes down, there won't be a giant sucking sound of many others on both sides going down with the ship as well.
but Democrats are the only ones talking about it... 95% of the news broadcast even.. they fail to mention the Hillary camp meetings with the Ukrainian gubment tho.... 😟
Why is Hillary off limits..?? Why did everyone look the other way when she actually broke laws..?? the hypocrisy runs deep... 😟
No one normal would want to be in politics.
which is a shame because career politicians were never the intent
our gov was founded with citizen statesmen
Term limits would be cool.... but you got people like Pelosi convinced she's the only one in the world who could do her job... 😟
DrafterX wrote:
her job is "be crazy" right?
there are a lot of crazies...
