victor809
8 years ago

Active verses passive.

Turn left, take 3...

Abrignac wrote:




I'm not a stock wizard, but I'm pretty sure money invested in companies is actively creating jobs. Those hotels he built were funded by investors. The company TRJ or whatever it was, eventually was listed on the stock exchange. How would him having invested his money in GE been any different than what the investors did to invest in his hotels? Ultimately the bulk of the money to create those jobs came from investors.
Abrignac
8 years ago

I'm not a stock wizard, but I'm pretty sure money invested in companies is actively creating jobs. Those hotels he built were funded by investors. The company TRJ or whatever it was, eventually was listed on the stock exchange. How would him having invested his money in GE been any different than what the investors did to invest in his hotels? Ultimately the bulk of the money to create those jobs came from investors.

victor809 wrote:



You're not that dense are you?
banderl
8 years ago
The reappearance of the "I only got one million from my Daddy" lie.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Drafter if you were creeping on 15 year olds when you were 23 there’s a special place in hell for you.

Just paraphrasing the first daughter. Don’t lump yourself in with Moore.
victor809
8 years ago

You're not that dense are you?

Abrignac wrote:



When it comes to stock investment, apparently.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know it's abstracted out quite a bit in the modern stock market... but the fundamental idea still should apply. shares are an investment in a corporation. That investment can be used for anything, but was historically used for capital projects.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Banderl, it’s not worth arguing about is why I glossed past it.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Victor if what you say isn’t true how does that impact the current tax debate.
victor809
8 years ago
If what I say isn't true?

Hell if I know. If what I say isn't true then I'm not 100% sure where shares fall in on a corporation.
teedubbya
8 years ago
You read it right.
victor809
8 years ago
Were you picking up on the "capital projects" part? Because that is the weakest part of my statement. I've said before that generally extra cash ends up in things other than R&D or manufacturing.... you know... pay to ceos... marketing. that crap.
teedubbya
8 years ago
#114 sure is a Long post. My lips got tired reading it.

They all are prolly lying.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Victor I’m being more basic than that. Just embracing trickle down. If I invest the mere million and only million and anyone who proves it was much more than a million is a liar million in to the markets and it doesn’t create jobs then neither does a tax cut.
teedubbya
8 years ago
And in general I’m just effing around and not all that serious.

If anyone wants to vote pedo they don’t need to justify it. If anyone wants to associate or equate themselves with it they owe nothing to anyone.

Roll tide. When the corn silk appears it’s time to pollinate.
Abrignac
8 years ago

When it comes to stock investment, apparently.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know it's abstracted out quite a bit in the modern stock market... but the fundamental idea still should apply. shares are an investment in a corporation. That investment can be used for anything, but was historically used for capital projects.

victor809 wrote:



Passive vs active, think
victor809
8 years ago

Passive vs active, think

Abrignac wrote:



In investing PAssive vs active is just index funds/mutual vs specific shares. Not sure why you think this is important. An index fund investment is just further subdividing your investment, but still putting that money into shares of companies. Just fewer $$ into a lot more of them. Shouldn't have an impact on the basic theory.
teedubbya
8 years ago
I think compounding the gains he would have made investing the multiple millions on dollars his dad gave him May very well have benefited the economy more than his haphazard series of failures and refusal to pay people along the way.

I say MAY because we don’t and can’t know. But I don’t accept the financial genius trump says he is. He is good at marketing trump though.
victor809
8 years ago

Victor I’m being more basic than that. Just embracing trickle down. If I invest the mere million and only million and anyone who proves it was much more than a million is a liar million in to the markets and it doesn’t create jobs then neither does a tax cut.

teedubbya wrote:



Gotcha. I'm not smart enough to make that argument. But yes, an interesting point.
teedubbya
8 years ago
By the way does he have dentures or is he simply losing it?
victor809
8 years ago
prevailing theory is dentures.
secondary is stroking out.

I would prefer dentures.
Abrignac
8 years ago

In investing PAssive vs active is just index funds/mutual vs specific shares. Not sure why you think this is important. An index fund investment is just further subdividing your investment, but still putting that money into shares of companies. Just fewer $$ into a lot more of them. Shouldn't have an impact on the basic theory.

victor809 wrote:




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