Abrignac
8 years ago

Some definitely would. If I was teaching I might, or probably would. Others wouldn’t (like the vocal ones in FL, not to be confused with all). Others are freaked out and scared of guns in general. I often forget how much they scare and freak some out.


Abrig glad you stepped in to this one. I respect your judgement. What’s you take on the Prez saying teachers love kids more than resource officers?

teedubbya wrote:



Spot on. SRO's tolerate much less nonsense than the teachers.

Ex.

Teacher: Little Johnnie is a good kid. He just has to learn to follow rules.
SRO: Little Johnnie Moron will be doing time about this time next month.
teedubbya
8 years ago
So in your opinion they love them more in the context of protecting them in a gun battle and protecting life?

I’m not talking being soft. My dad loved me more than a stranger but was a hard ass at times because he loved me.

I see you as being a guy that gives folks chances when others wouldn’t but demanding a set of rules be followed. You soft bassard.
teedubbya
8 years ago
^ meant as a compliment.
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

They walked back the assault rifle ban

But I get what you are saying and agree. That’s what I’m saying. PDSA rinse repeat isn’t a normal government function.

teedubbya wrote:




It had a sunset..it expired.
Abrignac
8 years ago

what if we can figure out ways to make it harder to find a way around the laws?

delta1 wrote:




what if we can figure out ways to enforce those laws?
Abrignac
8 years ago

So in your opinion they love them more in the context of protecting them in a gun battle and protecting life?

I’m not talking being soft. My dad loved me more than a stranger but was a hard ass at times because he loved me.

I see you as being a guy that gives folks chances when others wouldn’t but demanding a set of rules be followed. You soft bassard.

teedubbya wrote:



Not really. It's more of a calling.
Abrignac
8 years ago

I am curious though..... did all the regulation on sudafed do anything to meth production.... I'm being serious here. don't know the answer.

teedubbya wrote:



no
teedubbya
8 years ago

It had a sunset..it expired.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



There was a conscious political effort to allow it to sunset. Semantics but we actually agree
teedubbya
8 years ago

no

Abrignac wrote:




I’ve not looked but suspect that’s the answer too. Let’s roll it back.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Abrig you’d know more than I and I accept your answer.

I just find it hard to beleive you love kids and human lives less than teachers. A profession is a profession and I had some great teachers....and some crappy ones.

I know little about resource officers. We never had cops in my schools unless they were escorting mcgruff the crime dog for a lecture.
Speyside
8 years ago
Anthony, glad you jumped in. Your knowledge is invaluable trying to understand this. Do many if any states have things similar to the CEC and the PEC?
Abrignac
8 years ago

IIRC, at the time of the shooting at the UT, mass shootings were very rare...and few people owned semi-auto rifles

Make America Great Again,

or Take Back America....

delta1 wrote:



IIRC, Columbine was the first mass school shooting. It happened on April 20, 1999. Semi-auto rifles were brought to the civilian market in 1903 with the Winchester Model 1903. So what happened between 1903 & 1999.

Video games, movies, prozac, etc...
Abrignac
8 years ago

not here, and I don't

I use a n82 tactical... very simple but I love it

teedubbya wrote:




I've got a Glock 42 and it fits very nicely in one back pocket. Extra mags in the other.
Abrignac
8 years ago

4 who wouldn't confront the shooter...but yeah, a math teacher would have killed him.

No if the shooter only had a pistol or 3, any cop would have had no hesitation...based on no facts at all, I admit.

frankj1 wrote:



I can assure you that the 25 or so guys and gals I shared SRO duty with would have run straight at him.

Keep in mine that one person I used to work with confronted an **** with a dutch made semi-auto rifle last year in Baton Rouge trying to save a downed officer. I'm sure he knew he might lose his life (he was killed), but he tried to recuse another officer nonetheless.
Abrignac
8 years ago

David here. Sorry Frank, I love ya bud, but we have to disagree. Don't you think that the football coach, or any of the teachers who gave their lives trying to protect the children would not have given anything at that moment to have had the tools required to at least attempt to defend themselves and the innocent? I would rather die trying to defend myself and my loved ones, rather then standing there unarmed and helpless.

This argument I hear about highly trained police officers vs. teachers also holds no water. To many police officers, their weapon is just another tool on their belt. Many police officers fire their weapon only once a year when they are required to re-qualify. I have shot next to NJ police officers practicing for their simple qualification test, and many of them are totally incompetent when it comes to firearms. Not only is their marksmanship very poor, but Donna and I have been "muzzle sweep" by police officers with a loaded gun and finger on the trigger several times at the range. Most times we packed up and left for our own safety.

I don't buy the argument that a trained CCW holder couldn't stop a shooter with an AR, especially if the situation was "defend yourself or die". Do a Google search. There have been more then one incidence where a school employee has stopped a mass shooting by retrieving their own firearm from their vehicle and confronting the shooter. Usually without firing a shot.

Mrs. dpnewell wrote:



Sad but true in many cases.

What's up ya cheap ole bassard?
Abrignac
8 years ago

What situation is the coroner involved in? Grieving to the point of danger to self or others?

teedubbya wrote:




Anyone can go to the Coroner's office and swear an affidavit. The evidence the give must be have been witnessed by them first hand. It's considered an official police report, so someone making a false report will very likely find themselves in a 6x9 cell if they make a bogus claim.
Abrignac
8 years ago

Abrig you’d know more than I and I accept your answer.

I just find it hard to beleive you love kids and human lives less than teachers. A profession is a profession and I had some great teachers....and some crappy ones.

I know little about resource officers. We never had cops in my schools unless they were escorting mcgruff the crime dog for a lecture.

teedubbya wrote:



I hate everyone with equal enthusiasm.
Abrignac
8 years ago

Anthony, glad you jumped in. Your knowledge is invaluable trying to understand this. Do many if any states have things similar to the CEC and the PEC?

Speyside wrote:




Can't say for sure, but I suspect most have laws which accomplish the same or something very similar.
cacman
8 years ago

IIRC, Columbine was the first mass school shooting. It happened on April 20, 1999. Semi-auto rifles were brought to the civilian market in 1903 with the Winchester Model 1903. So what happened between 1903 & 1999.

Abrignac wrote:


The Gun-Free School Zones Act was passed in 1990. It's all gone downhill from there.
tailgater
8 years ago

or Mena AK where a backwoods governor ran his state like a well oiled octopus with a hand in every pocket unseated a sitting President because he found their cookie jar!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Well don't trust your soul to no backwoods southern lawyer.
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