MACS
8 years ago
I don't dispute that most people have a right to life. (I say most, because I don't believe murderers do)

The GUN is not, and has never been the problem. If we want to even the playing field, or fight fire with fire, we should not be discussing restrictions. We should be discussing 'right to carry' laws, CCW reciprocity, and severe penalties for CRIMINALS who use guns in their crimes.

Not penalties (or restrictions) on those who did not.

Just my opinion on the matter. I see far too many repeat offenders with firearms being released. We're not harsh enough.
delta1
8 years ago

Al, we have common sense gun laws. The overwhelming majority of law abiding gun owners never commit a crime with their guns. (like higher than 98.2%)

Every damn time some nut job does something stupid with a gun, the libs want to punish every law abiding citizen who DIDN'T do it with more restrictions... which does nothing to deter criminals.

MACS wrote:



Most of our laws are intended to protect us from that nut...that's the way it's been in civilized countries. Societies should respond to threats and implement practices to mitigate them...seatbelts, helmets, stiffer drunk-driving laws are all examples of society's law-abiding citizens willing to give up just a little of their freedom for the greater good.

What some gun supporters are promoting seems to be an armed open carry society where everyone is presumed armed...where openly carrying semi-auto rifles is considered natural. The only images of societies like that in the modern world are in progressive, forward thinking low crime places like....Syria...Libya... Liberia... Nigeria...

We do have common sense gun laws, in many states...but there are some huge loopholes in that so-called protective net...private undocumented gun sales like at gun shows is one example. Lack of uniform gun laws from state to state is another.

What's wrong with taking a close look at some of the states with low numbers of gun deaths compared to the number of gun owners to see if they are doing something other states are not?
tailgater
8 years ago

I heard that it was Mayor McCheese that was behind the push to keep Chik-fil-A out of Boston. 🍺

Buckwheat wrote:



For the win!
tailgater
8 years ago

Whats that joke....if you're American before you go into the bathroom
And American when you come out of the bathroom
What are you when you're in the bathroom ?

You're a peein

HuckFinn wrote:



Three guys at a whore house.
One going in.
One busy inside.
One leaving.

What's their nationalities?















tailgater
8 years ago

MACS, I'm a liberal and I see no value to further gun control. There must be an answer out there somewhere, but I don't see it. It certainly breaks my heart to see the senseless lose of life.

Speyside wrote:



You can't be liberal.
I like you too much, and Frankie has used up my Love-a-liberal quota.

tailgater
8 years ago

Most of our laws are intended to protect us from that nut...that's the way it's been in civilized countries. Societies should respond to threats and implement practices to mitigate them...seatbelts, helmets, stiffer drunk-driving laws are all examples of society's law-abiding citizens willing to give up just a little of their freedom for the greater good.

delta1 wrote:



But seat belts and helmets were put into law without EVER threatening to ban cars or bikes.

Drunk driving laws were increased without EVER threatening to ban booze.

Take the threat of a ban off the table and you'd be surprised how much might get accomplished.

MACS
8 years ago

Three guys at a whore house.
One going in.
One busy inside.
One leaving.

What's their nationalities?

tailgater wrote:



Sailor.
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Three guys at a whore house.
One going in.
One busy inside.
One leaving.

What's their nationalities?




Russian, Himalayan and Finnish










tailgater wrote:

frankj1
8 years ago

But seat belts and helmets were put into law without EVER threatening to ban cars or bikes.

Drunk driving laws were increased without EVER threatening to ban booze.

Take the threat of a ban off the table and you'd be surprised how much might get accomplished.

tailgater wrote:


I always think of driving as a privilege with restrictions and approval controlled entirely by states, not a right.
HuckFinn
8 years ago

I always think of driving as a privilege with restrictions and approval controlled entirely by states, not a right.

frankj1 wrote:


Legally speaking, driving is a privilege, not a right.
Gun ownership is a right.

But Frank, just wait till some family member tries to take away your keys...
Speyside
8 years ago
Had to do that with my grandmother about 2 years before she passed away. It was very hard emotionally for her and us, though all involved including her knew it was the right decision.
tailgater
8 years ago
I had to take away my father's keys not too long ago.
But I didn't feel bad.
Payback for all the times he did it to me during my high school year.

HuckFinn
8 years ago

Had to do that with my grandmother about 2 years before she passed away. It was very hard emotionally for her and us, though all involved including her knew it was the right decision.

Speyside wrote:


Same here. Happened to many of my older family members and friends' family members.
We know and they know they can't drive but for some folks it signals the end of more than just driving eg independence, relevancy, life!

Always makes me think when it happens that it's just a matter of time and....
HuckFinn
8 years ago

I had to take away my father's keys not too long ago.
But I didn't feel bad.
Payback for all the times he did it to me during my high school year.

tailgater wrote:


You went to high school for a whole year?
Speyside
8 years ago
I thought he went for 5 years.

Nothing wrong with that. Just say in.
tailgater
8 years ago

You went to high school for a whole year?

HuckFinn wrote:



Not in a row.

frankj1
8 years ago

Not in a row.

tailgater wrote:


I can't believe I laughed out loud
frankj1
8 years ago

Legally speaking, driving is a privilege, not a right.
Gun ownership is a right.

But Frank, just wait till some family member tries to take away your keys...

HuckFinn wrote:


they'll have to pry those keys from my cold dead fingers

Frank Heston
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